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Million dollar arm. Ten cent head.

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    You could be very comfortable for life with 36MM in earnings, even if you paid 40% in taxes.

    Invest it in the market and live on ~800k a year, it should last as long as you do.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      How are you gonna make ends meet on $800k/year?

      Is that before or after taxes?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        You could be very comfortable for life with 36MM in earnings, even if you paid 40% in taxes.

        Invest it in the market and live on ~800k a year, it should last as long as you do.

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        @jon-nyc said in Million dollar arm. Ten cent head.:

        You could be very comfortable for life with 36MM in earnings, even if you paid 40% in taxes.

        Invest it in the market and live on ~800k a year, it should last as long as you do.

        In all fairness, drop the first 40% to your agents, trainers, physical therapists/masseuses/nutritionists/life managers, et al… So he’s really starting with ~ $20M, or $12M after taxes.

        Ask me what I can do with $12M…

        The Brad

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          Therein lies the problem. Most guys with 12MM are thinking about the multimillion dollar purchase they can make. I see 12MM net worth and think “you can spend $480k a year in perpetuity, which is a nice life.”

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Therein lies the problem. Most guys with 12MM are thinking about the multimillion dollar purchase they can make. I see 12MM net worth and think “you can spend $480k a year in perpetuity, which is a nice life.”

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            @jon-nyc said in Million dollar arm. Ten cent head.:

            I see 12MM net worth and think “you can spend $480k a year in perpetuity, which is a nice life.”

            Just curious … what’s the fixed formula or model you use to go from “$X net worth” to “can afford to spend $Y a year in perpetuity”?

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              The number used at Bogleheads is 4% and it checks out historically and in Montecarlo models.

              Some financial companies say 3%, because they take 1% a year.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                I'm doing a bit more than 4% because of age (RMD). Right now, I'm at 1/24.6 withdrawals from my IRA.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Therein lies the problem. Most guys with 12MM are thinking about the multimillion dollar purchase they can make. I see 12MM net worth and think “you can spend $480k a year in perpetuity, which is a nice life.”

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                  @jon-nyc said in Million dollar arm. Ten cent head.:

                  I see 12MM net worth and think “you can spend $480k a year in perpetuity, which is a nice life.”

                  My attitude as well.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Look at what happens to lottery winners. Most are broke in five or six years.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Look at what happens to lottery winners. Most are broke in five or six years.

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                      @Jolly said in Million dollar arm. Ten cent head.:

                      Look at what happens to lottery winners. Most are broke in five or six years.

                      Still, I think most of us won't mind winning the lottery every now and then. 🙂

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                        We ain't average bears.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Look at what happens to lottery winners. Most are broke in five or six years.

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                          @Jolly said in Million dollar arm. Ten cent head.:

                          Look at what happens to lottery winners. Most are broke in five or six years.

                          And NBA stars. But they’re just winners of a different kind of lottery.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            Meh, Russell is something of the aberration in the NFL.

                            One of the good things the NFL does is make all rookies attend financial management seminars given by retired players going over the dangers, the pitfalls, and the opportunities. Most of the rookies take the lessons to heart. Some don’t.

                            The Brad

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