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Unsealed Indictment

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    #2

    Unreal. Thinking HIPAA violations are the important thing here is fiddling while Rome burns.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #3

      The Just-Us Department.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Reading the indictment, it's not clear that he shared patient information that was private, but he accessed it without authorization. After accessing it, he shared information that didn't reveal identities.

        Am I getting that right?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Reading the indictment, it's not clear that he shared patient information that was private, but he accessed it without authorization. After accessing it, he shared information that didn't reveal identities.

          Am I getting that right?

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          #5

          @George-K said in Unsealed Indictment:

          Reading the indictment, it's not clear that he shared patient information that was private, but he accessed it without authorization. After accessing it, he shared information that didn't reveal identities.

          Am I getting that right?

          You are.

          You never accessed info on a patient you weren't working on? I've done it.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            #6

            I think so. Yes, he should not have accessed it without authorization. But this stuff goes on day in and day out, and he may in fact have had authorization, which is a somewhat murky subject. Was he involved in the patients' treatment at all? Was he their physician otherwise?

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              I think so. Yes, he should not have accessed it without authorization. But this stuff goes on day in and day out, and he may in fact have had authorization, which is a somewhat murky subject. Was he involved in the patients' treatment at all? Was he their physician otherwise?

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              George K
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              @Mik said in Unsealed Indictment:

              Was he involved in the patients' treatment at all? Was he their physician otherwise?

              The indictment claims that he was not.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                It seems to me that this will be a case of whistleblower protections vs the procedural authorizations attached to HIPAA. The fact that the spirit and purpose of HIPAA wasn’t violated and the purpose for breaking the procedures was to reveal the fraud by the hospital seems to be the essence of the various whistleblower protections.

                The Brad

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  So it would seem.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #10

                    Second Whistleblower speaks out…

                    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13549375/Whistleblower-nurse-benefits-free-sex-change-FBI-threats.html

                    The Brad

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                      Hope this ends in a mushroom cloud for the Just-us folks..

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        It looks like the Texas AG is about to go after the hospital for Medicaid fraud. Evidently, after they stopped Gender Affirming Care, they had an extraordinary number of young girls treated for low testosterone levels…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          It seems to me that this will be a case of whistleblower protections vs the procedural authorizations attached to HIPAA. The fact that the spirit and purpose of HIPAA wasn’t violated and the purpose for breaking the procedures was to reveal the fraud by the hospital seems to be the essence of the various whistleblower protections.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Unsealed Indictment:

                          It seems to me that this will be a case of whistleblower protections vs the procedural authorizations attached to HIPAA.

                          Spitballing here but maybe they’re independent. Whistleblower protection will be a state thing while HIPAA will be federal.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Even though Medicaid is administered by the state, it's Federal money. No bleed over?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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