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As a pro-lifer I am good with this…

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #39

    Looks like Shumer's going to give it a try.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/schumer-to-bring-up-vote-on-gun-bump-stocks-ban-after-supreme-court-decision/ar-BB1okv5M?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=1798a3055e80451e95edfb3130052b91&ei=22

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #40

      A former trump administration official said the other day that after Las Vegas the votes were there for a amendment to the law, but the administration decided to act in order to save a few republicans some tough votes.

      This analyst says the votes may still be there but not in an election year.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by Mik
        #41

        Too bad no one has the balls to simply defend their vote as the right decision. Long on self-interest, short on integrity and service.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @George-K said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

          Make a law, test its constitutionality, and go on. Rely on legislation, not regulation.

          Agree 100%. But constitutionality is an interpretation of who is on the court at the moment is what i am trying to say. I am pretty sure that me buying an RPG is not allowed, though I am sure Jolly can confirm. (LOL) Why is it constitutionally allowed to ban that but not another type of weapon?

          Anyway, interesting debate that will still probably be going on 100 years from now.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by Jolly
          #42

          @taiwan_girl said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

          @George-K said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

          Make a law, test its constitutionality, and go on. Rely on legislation, not regulation.

          Agree 100%. But constitutionality is an interpretation of who is on the court at the moment is what i am trying to say. I am pretty sure that me buying an RPG is not allowed, though I am sure Jolly can confirm. (LOL) Why is it constitutionally allowed to ban that but not another type of weapon?

          Anyway, interesting debate that will still probably be going on 100 years from now.

          When the Constitution was written, volley guns, Nock guns, pepperboxes and duckfoot pistols were all available. All of those are multi-barrel or multi-shot weapons.

          Besides, if you had wanted to buy a 3-pounder cannon (pretty popular with Washington), it was well within your rights.

          Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S. George can't. Six states do not allow private ownership of RPG's, Illinois being one of them.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #43

            It wouldn’t be portable, but give Jolly an air compressor, a nail gun, some duck tape, and 30 minutes… He’ll come up with a home defense weapon that looks an awful lot like a fully automatic pistol and is completely legal.

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #44

              I used to run in some interesting circles.

              I can still give you some contact information for a guy that makes Coehorn mortars...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #45

                Speaking of muzzleloader weapons...Told this before, but knew some coonasses in South Louisiana that made a cannon from a piece of three inch Schedule 80 pipe, piano wire and silver solder. They shot bent nails, old bolts, washers and even one time a broken up cast iron stove.

                Nothing illegal about the weapon itself, except when they used it to hunt ducks.😱😅

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #46

                  Sounds like fun. Did they get any?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Sounds like fun. Did they get any?

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #47

                    @Mik said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                    Sounds like fun. Did they get any?

                    Somewhere around 50 or so. The cannon was mounted in a bateaux. To aim, you had to aim the boat. To compound the illegality, you do this at night, when ducks are "rafting". They'll gather up in huge groups out on the water. You very slowly and quietly paddle up to within range, aim and touch 'er off. Then, go pick up the ducks.

                    Like I said, I've known some critters...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Mik said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                      Sounds like fun. Did they get any?

                      Somewhere around 50 or so. The cannon was mounted in a bateaux. To aim, you had to aim the boat. To compound the illegality, you do this at night, when ducks are "rafting". They'll gather up in huge groups out on the water. You very slowly and quietly paddle up to within range, aim and touch 'er off. Then, go pick up the ducks.

                      Like I said, I've known some critters...

                      MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #48

                      @Jolly That would make an excellent episode of Duck Dynasty.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Jolly That would make an excellent episode of Duck Dynasty.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #49

                        @Mik said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                        @Jolly That would make an excellent episode of Duck Dynasty.

                        Except all participants would go directly to jail. 😄

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Mik said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                          @Jolly That would make an excellent episode of Duck Dynasty.

                          Except all participants would go directly to jail. 😄

                          AxtremusA Offline
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                          Axtremus
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                          #50

                          @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                          @Mik said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                          @Jolly That would make an excellent episode of Duck Dynasty.

                          Except all participants would go directly to jail. 😄

                          Yeah, that'd just make the episode even better! For ratings, of course.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                            @George-K said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                            Make a law, test its constitutionality, and go on. Rely on legislation, not regulation.

                            Agree 100%. But constitutionality is an interpretation of who is on the court at the moment is what i am trying to say. I am pretty sure that me buying an RPG is not allowed, though I am sure Jolly can confirm. (LOL) Why is it constitutionally allowed to ban that but not another type of weapon?

                            Anyway, interesting debate that will still probably be going on 100 years from now.

                            When the Constitution was written, volley guns, Nock guns, pepperboxes and duckfoot pistols were all available. All of those are multi-barrel or multi-shot weapons.

                            Besides, if you had wanted to buy a 3-pounder cannon (pretty popular with Washington), it was well within your rights.

                            Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S. George can't. Six states do not allow private ownership of RPG's, Illinois being one of them.

                            taiwan_girlT Offline
                            taiwan_girlT Offline
                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #51

                            @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                            Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S.

                            Yes, but...........

                            Yes, you can own an RPG in the USA. If it is functional, it would require a tax stamp and a year-long background check.
                            https://www.ncesc.com/gaming-pedia/is-it-illegal-to-own-an-rpg-in-the-us/

                            So, they are treating the purchase differently than buying a handgun. There is obviously an "interpretation" on how different arms should are treating. Should we make buying a handgun have the same requirement?

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                              Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S.

                              Yes, but...........

                              Yes, you can own an RPG in the USA. If it is functional, it would require a tax stamp and a year-long background check.
                              https://www.ncesc.com/gaming-pedia/is-it-illegal-to-own-an-rpg-in-the-us/

                              So, they are treating the purchase differently than buying a handgun. There is obviously an "interpretation" on how different arms should are treating. Should we make buying a handgun have the same requirement?

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #52

                              @taiwan_girl said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                              @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                              Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S.

                              Yes, but...........

                              Yes, you can own an RPG in the USA. If it is functional, it would require a tax stamp and a year-long background check.
                              https://www.ncesc.com/gaming-pedia/is-it-illegal-to-own-an-rpg-in-the-us/

                              So, they are treating the purchase differently than buying a handgun. There is obviously an "interpretation" on how different arms should are treating. Should we make buying a handgun have the same requirement?

                              Does your back get sore from moving the goalposts?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                              taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @taiwan_girl said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                                @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                                Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S.

                                Yes, but...........

                                Yes, you can own an RPG in the USA. If it is functional, it would require a tax stamp and a year-long background check.
                                https://www.ncesc.com/gaming-pedia/is-it-illegal-to-own-an-rpg-in-the-us/

                                So, they are treating the purchase differently than buying a handgun. There is obviously an "interpretation" on how different arms should are treating. Should we make buying a handgun have the same requirement?

                                Does your back get sore from moving the goalposts?

                                taiwan_girlT Offline
                                taiwan_girlT Offline
                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #53

                                @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                                @taiwan_girl said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                                @Jolly said in As a pro-lifer I am good with this…:

                                Oh, to answer your RPG question, you can legally own a RPG in the U.S.

                                Yes, but...........

                                Yes, you can own an RPG in the USA. If it is functional, it would require a tax stamp and a year-long background check.
                                https://www.ncesc.com/gaming-pedia/is-it-illegal-to-own-an-rpg-in-the-us/

                                So, they are treating the purchase differently than buying a handgun. There is obviously an "interpretation" on how different arms should are treating. Should we make buying a handgun have the same requirement?

                                Does your back get sore from moving the goalposts?

                                LOL I think my point is valid. I am looking at the big picture. 😂

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