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The Heat Is On

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

    @LuFins-Dad said in The Heat Is On:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

    @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

    I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

    SAME.

    Would you rather be camping/backpacking when it’s 20 degrees at night or 90 degrees at night?

    I’ve done both. I would rather the 20 degree nights. The 90 degree nights were miserable.

    I've humped it 38 miles without drinking water because it froze.

    Seriously, though, was this the water you carried with you or the pool able refill spots that were frozen? I assume you mean the refill spots?

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #27

    @LuFins-Dad said in The Heat Is On:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

    @LuFins-Dad said in The Heat Is On:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

    @Mik said in The Heat Is On:

    I think I’d prefer too hot to too damn cold.

    SAME.

    Would you rather be camping/backpacking when it’s 20 degrees at night or 90 degrees at night?

    I’ve done both. I would rather the 20 degree nights. The 90 degree nights were miserable.

    I've humped it 38 miles without drinking water because it froze.

    Seriously, though, was this the water you carried with you or the pool able refill spots that were frozen? I assume you mean the refill spots?

    No, the water I carried with me. As for refill spots, do you mean streams and the like? Everything was frozen. There was one hiker's pavillion we got to that had a pump, but no bueno.

    Please love yourself.

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    • George KG George K

      OK...

      Lemme direct the narrative a bit.

      Cold outdoors, in a tent, might be worse than heat outdoors in a tent.

      But, in a house? Gimme cold and unlimited blankets.

      Camping outdoors ≠ being in a house in frigid/sweltering weather. My theory is that you can always get warmer, but it's damn hard to get cooler.

      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      #28

      @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

      OK...

      Lemme direct the narrative a bit.

      Cold outdoors, in a tent, might be worse than heat outdoors in a tent.

      But, in a house? Gimme cold and unlimited blankets.

      Camping outdoors ≠ being in a house in frigid/sweltering weather. My theory is that you can always get warmer, but it's damn hard to get cooler.

      In terms of uncomfort, sure. But in terms of extremes, which can still happen indoors depending on where you live, it's easier for the cold to kill you.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @jon-nyc said in The Heat Is On:

        Several of you don’t know when to go camping.

        "Everything went great, the end" is the worst possible outcome for a hiking trip.

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        #29

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

        @jon-nyc said in The Heat Is On:

        Several of you don’t know when to go camping.

        "Everything went great, the end" is the worst possible outcome for a hiking trip.

        Yes, but the peak experience is closer to that than ‘and then I pissed on my own hands to be able to light a match’.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Jolly
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          #30

          Two words...

          Attic. Fan.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

            @jon-nyc said in The Heat Is On:

            Several of you don’t know when to go camping.

            "Everything went great, the end" is the worst possible outcome for a hiking trip.

            Yes, but the peak experience is closer to that than ‘and then I pissed on my own hands to be able to light a match’.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #31

            @jon-nyc said in The Heat Is On:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Heat Is On:

            @jon-nyc said in The Heat Is On:

            Several of you don’t know when to go camping.

            "Everything went great, the end" is the worst possible outcome for a hiking trip.

            Yes, but the peak experience is closer to that than ‘and then I pissed on my own hands to be able to light a match’.

            That is possible.

            Please love yourself.

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              Renauda
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              #32

              I have tent camped in all seasons up here. As a teen and young adult my friends and I would winter camp at least three or four times a year between November and February. We prepared for the cold and camped accordingly. Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion. Don’t recall anyone getting frost bitten. Was pretty challenging getting the smell of woodsmoke out of our bedding when we returned home after two or three days and nights out in the bush.

              It was fun. No biting bugs to pester you.

              Elbows up!

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              • George KG George K

                OK...

                Lemme direct the narrative a bit.

                Cold outdoors, in a tent, might be worse than heat outdoors in a tent.

                But, in a house? Gimme cold and unlimited blankets.

                Camping outdoors ≠ being in a house in frigid/sweltering weather. My theory is that you can always get warmer, but it's damn hard to get cooler.

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                taiwan_girl
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                #33

                @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                My theory is that you can always get warmer, but it's damn hard to get cooler.

                I agree with this.

                I do not think that the dew point in Bangkok has been below 75 F since December at all. Every time I check, it is 75+. Its not the heat, it is the humidity. LOL

                Today is pretty typical, though actually April/May were hotter (and are usually the hottest time of the year). But right now at 2:30 pm, below are the conditions. Feels like 106 F.

                IMG_1501-1 (dragged).jpg

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #34

                  To be honest, cold (up to a point) doesn't bother me too much. Heat can, especially on those days 100 degrees with 95% humidity..

                  Probably couldn't do it anymore, but I have spent nights in a tent around 10 degrees. Not a lot of fun.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Several of you don’t know when to go camping.

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #35

                    @jon-nyc That was my take as well.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Two words...

                      Attic. Fan.

                      MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      #36

                      @Jolly said in The Heat Is On:

                      Two words...

                      Attic. Fan.

                      That's what I grew up with. They are very, very good at cooling a house at night.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        I have tent camped in all seasons up here. As a teen and young adult my friends and I would winter camp at least three or four times a year between November and February. We prepared for the cold and camped accordingly. Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion. Don’t recall anyone getting frost bitten. Was pretty challenging getting the smell of woodsmoke out of our bedding when we returned home after two or three days and nights out in the bush.

                        It was fun. No biting bugs to pester you.

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                        George K
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                        #37

                        @Renauda said in The Heat Is On:

                        Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion

                        You mean -30 C, I assume. That's really cold.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          I love how this thread went from extolling the virtues of smart building design to help cool a home to weighing the relative merit of camping naked in Death Valley vs camping naked in the Yukon…

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #39

                            Used to camp in the Anza Borrego desert quite a bit. It was great.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #40

                              I love how this thread went from extolling the virtues of smart building design to help cool a home to weighing the relative merit of camping naked in Death Valley vs camping naked in the Yukon…

                              Link to video

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                We had no AC in TEXAS when I was born, none in Ohio, where I lived 2-9. We had it in Florida where I lived 9-14 (but my school didn't, and we started in August). No AC in upstate NY where I went to High School either. None in the dorms in college.

                                So I had AC for 5 years of my first 20.

                                Oddly, my maternal grandfather worked for the Air Conditioning division of GE in the 30s through the 70s. It was later sold to Carrier.

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                                George K
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                                #41

                                @jon-nyc said in The Heat Is On:

                                We had no AC in TEXAS when I was born, none in Ohio, where I lived 2-9. We had it in Florida where I lived 9-14 but my school didn't, and we started in August.

                                No AC in upstate NY where I went to High School either.

                                What's your preference?

                                Too cold or too hot?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  It’s 91 and I’m in front of the grill making some hamburgers and bison (!) dogs, along with corn and grilled peppers. I would rather do this at 10 degrees than 90…

                                  Even in my Columbia shirt…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Renauda said in The Heat Is On:

                                    Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion

                                    You mean -30 C, I assume. That's really cold.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #43

                                    @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                                    @Renauda said in The Heat Is On:

                                    Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion

                                    You mean -30 C, I assume. That's really cold.

                                    Yep, -30 C or - 22 F. Any colder then too many things could go wrong real fast especially at night.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                                      @Renauda said in The Heat Is On:

                                      Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion

                                      You mean -30 C, I assume. That's really cold.

                                      Yep, -30 C or - 22 F. Any colder then too many things could go wrong real fast especially at night.

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                                      #44

                                      @Renauda said in The Heat Is On:

                                      @George-K said in The Heat Is On:

                                      @Renauda said in The Heat Is On:

                                      Nighttime temperatures would drop to 30 C on occasion

                                      You mean -30 C, I assume. That's really cold.

                                      Yep, -30 C or - 22 F. Any colder then too many things could go wrong real fast especially at night.

                                      I’d be tempted to try, but with really good gear and a really good and full proof backup plan….

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #45

                                        In other words, I’d do it in my backyard with an excellent cold weather specific tent, bag, and a damn good fire 10-15 feet from the tent…

                                        The Brad

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                                          Renauda
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                                          Back then we had no such luxuries other than the nearby fire. Summer bag with a heavy wool blanket and flannel sheet laid inside. Wear a dry old style track suit and unworn dry wool socks to bed. Some wore a toque to bed. Outside clothes, only if dry and free of snow, went underneath the sleeping bag. Trick was to always work to stay dry.

                                          Elbows up!

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