The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today
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wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 08:51 last edited by
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wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 12:11 last edited by
Sorry, when you've got three videos in a row, the likelihood is that nobody watches any of them.
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Sorry, when you've got three videos in a row, the likelihood is that nobody watches any of them.
wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 12:31 last edited by@Jolly said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
Sorry, when you've got three videos in a row, the likelihood is that nobody watches any of them.
Yeah, but they're all different viewpoints....
By the way, what are George Conway's conservative bonafides? I'd never heard of the guy until 2016.
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wrote on 7 Jun 2024, 22:38 last edited by
Juror Misconduct?
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Juror Misconduct?
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Lots of chatter that this was not a real person, claiming to be the cousin of a juror.
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wrote on 8 Jun 2024, 01:12 last edited by Copper 6 Aug 2024, 01:12
This is a little easier to read
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPf5dMpW4AApx1f?format=jpg&name=large
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wrote on 13 Jun 2024, 10:16 last edited by
https://newrepublic.com/post/182623/did-trump-admit-another-felony-probabation-interview
New York City Department of Probation officials questioned the convicted felon and Republican presidential nominee Tuesday in a presentencing interview, and part of the discussion concerned a gun registered to him in the state. Under federal law, convicted felons are not allowed to have guns or ammunition.
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wrote on 13 Jun 2024, 10:18 last edited by
What is it with our politicians and gun laws?
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wrote on 13 Jun 2024, 11:02 last edited by
NYC has tough gun laws. Trump had a permit. I'm sure they were talking about the revocation of that permit.
Ain't it going to be a kick in the pants if Hunter wins an appeal based on the 2nd?
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wrote on 13 Jun 2024, 13:45 last edited by
I think he will. There’s already a circuit split on the constitutionality of the law.
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wrote on 13 Jun 2024, 14:40 last edited by Axtremus
Oy, the angst of having the name "Hunter" that is so well-suited to play savior for the Second Amendment and the name "Biden" so generally despised by the Second Amendment enthusiasts of his time.
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wrote on 13 Jun 2024, 18:15 last edited by
Nah. If it furthers the 2nd, let the SOB walk.
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Should the SCOTUS’ “presidential immunity” ruling void the NY “hush money/falsification of business records” conviction?
Discuss.
wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 16:59 last edited by@Axtremus said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
Should the SCOTUS’ “presidential immunity” ruling void the NY “hush money/falsification of business records” conviction?
Discuss.
Not at all. Happened as candidate Trump, and had nothing to do with his duties as president.
It should be voided for myriad other reasons.
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@Axtremus said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
Should the SCOTUS’ “presidential immunity” ruling void the NY “hush money/falsification of business records” conviction?
Discuss.
Not at all. Happened as candidate Trump, and had nothing to do with his duties as president.
It should be voided for myriad other reasons.
wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 17:28 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
@Axtremus said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
Should the SCOTUS’ “presidential immunity” ruling void the NY “hush money/falsification of business records” conviction?
Discuss.
Not at all. Happened as candidate Trump, and had nothing to do with his duties as president.
It should be voided for myriad other reasons.
Pretty much, although I saw where Trump's lawyers were going back through the case to see if anything applied.
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wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 18:03 last edited by LuFins Dad 7 Feb 2024, 18:03
Here’s what I don’t understand, doesn’t the change of the statute of limitations after the fact violate the principle of ex post facto law changes? They can change the statute of limitations going forward, but not after. That was settled in Stogner V California
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wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 20:09 last edited by
I believe the statute for the felony, upon which the other charges were based had not expired. So, by predicating it on the felony they got around that pesky detail.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
To me, this just shows a lack of common sense, judgement, etc etc on the part of President Trump. I mean, come on.
There are those who say that Trump's First Amendment Right is being infringed. I'm not sure how that plays out when he insults the judge.
OTOH, pointing out that the judge's daughter is a DNC fundraiser and that his refusal to recuse himself should be allowed. She also has worked on the Biden and Harris campaign.
The judge’s daughter, Loren Merchan, is president of Authentic Campaigns, a Chicago-based progressive political consulting firm whose top clients include Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), who was the lead prosecutor in Trump’s first impeachment trial, and the Senate Majority PAC, a major party fundraiser.
“Authentic Campaigns, and thus the judge’s daughter, is actively making money from this sham attack against President Trump, rendering Judge Merchan conflicted out,” Trump spokesman Steven Cheung told The Post, adding that evidence of bias is even clearer now than it was in August when Merchan rejected Trump’s first recusal motion.
If the judge orders him jailed, what do you think would be the effect on his campaign? IMO, it can't possibly hurt.
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/03/27/the-gag-and-the-goad-trump-should-appeal-latest-gag-order/
My opposition to past gag orders was based on the constitutional right of defendants to criticize their prosecutions. Courts have gradually expanded both the scope and use of such orders. It has gone from being relatively rare to commonplace. However, the use to gag the leading candidate for the presidency in the final months of the campaign only magnifies those concerns.
There is a division on courts in dealing with such challenges involving politicians. For example, a court struggled with those issues in the corruption trial of Rep. Harold E. Ford Sr. (D–Tenn.). The district court barred Ford from making any “extrajudicial statement that a reasonable person would expect to be disseminated by means of public communication,” including criticism of the motives of the government or basis, merits, or evidence of the prosecution.
The United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected the gag order as overbroad and stressed that any such limits on free speech should be treated as “presumptively void and may be upheld only on the basis of a clear showing that an exercise of First Amendment rights will interfere with the rights of the parties to a fair trial.”
This order allows for criticism of the case and both Merchan and Bragg. However, you have key figures like Cohen and Coangelo who are already central figures in this political campaign. In Cohen’s case, he has actively engaged in a campaign to block Trump politically and has done countless interviews on this case as part of the legal campaign.
wrote on 7 Sept 2024, 12:21 last edited by@George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:
the judge's daughter is a DNC fundraiser
