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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

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      George K
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      #42

      @Mik said in Menendez Indicted:

      Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

      In fairness, however, his wife is also under indictment, so that probably helps the cause for delay.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Mik said in Menendez Indicted:

        Bob's on the right team, dontchaknow.

        In fairness, however, his wife is also under indictment, so that probably helps the cause for delay.

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        taiwan_girl
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        #43

        @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

        his wife is also under indictment,

        and I believe that they are in one trial together.

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          #44

          The first half of this focus on Sen. Menendez, the second half rips into stock trading by Senators and Congressional Representatives:

          Link to video

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #45

            Menendez trial jury selection has started. He’s fucked, and soon.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #46

              No idea if this is true, but funny...

              Screenshot 2024-05-17 at 9.13.15 PM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                taiwan_girl
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                #47

                Some of the photos released by the FBI from their search of his house.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #48

                  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bob-menendez-trial-bribery-egypt-military-aid/

                  Prosecutors in Bob Menendez trial can't use evidence they say is critical to case, judge rules

                  U.S. District Court Judge Sidney Stein said prosecutors could not use text messages from 2019 that allegedly show Menendez, who was the top Democrat on the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee, assuring Egypt and the New Jersey businessmen who are alleged to have bribed him that he was not delaying military aid to the country after Egypt heard he had put a hold on it.

                  The jury also cannot see another text from 2022 in which the senator's wife, Nadine, allegedly told one of the businessmen that "Bob had to sign off on this." The text included a link about two pending foreign military sales to Egypt, according to prosecutors.

                  Prosecutors argued last week that Egypt was "frantic about not getting their money's worth," which is why it contacted Menendez through two of the New Jersey businessmen, who allegedly gave the senator cash, gold bars, and other things of value. The text involving Menendez's wife signaled, "You keep the bribes flowing, and he is going to keep giving you what you want on the military aid," prosecutor Paul Monteleoni told Stein before the decision.

                  But Stein determined the Constitution's "speech or debate" clause, which protects lawmakers against prosecution over official legislative acts, applied to the evidence.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #49

                    Background:

                    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/22/menendez-corruption-trial-prosecutors-00159557

                    Menendez’s attorneys are arguing that some of the most damning evidence against him cannot be shown to jurors without violating lawmakers’ constitutional “speech or debate” privileges. Now prosecutors worry a pending ruling by Judge Sidney Stein could create a class of “super citizens” in Congress who are above the law.

                    Stein is considering whether jurors can see text messages and phone records that prosecutors say will show Egyptian officials were “frantic about not getting their money’s worth” and Menendez’s wife boasted about her husband’s influence over arms sales.

                    Prosecutors are already having to dance around some of Menendez’s Senate actions because of the Constitution’s speech or debate clause. It grants a form of immunity to lawmakers that is mostly impenetrable in investigations relating to the official duties of lawmakers, their aides or other congressional officials.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #50

                      They don't seem to think it applies to the president, and perhaps it does not by deliberate omission. Not sure how it would apply to his wife's texts.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #51

                        Was it a "perfect beautiful" text, or was it something not as nice?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #52

                          https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/31/menendez-usda-new-jersey-00161121

                          In May 2019, a senior official at the USDA was told by his then-chief-of-staff that Sen. Bob Menendez would call his personal cell phone in around an hour.

                          The agriculture official, Ted McKinney, had been trying to get Egyptian officials to reverse their decision to grant a new company a monopoly certifying halal meat exported to that country. That decision, he recalled from the witness stand of Menendez’s corruption trial Friday, was “very unusual” and could hurt American beef interests.

                          McKinney said that he would “never forget the words” Menendez told him during the brief call: “Stop interfering with my constituent.”

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                          • MikM Mik

                            They don't seem to think it applies to the president, and perhaps it does not by deliberate omission. Not sure how it would apply to his wife's texts.

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                            @Mik said in Menendez Indicted:

                            They don't seem to think it applies to the president, and perhaps it does not by deliberate omission. Not sure how it would apply to his wife's texts.

                            It doesn’t apply to the president or the senators wife.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              taiwan_girl
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                              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/indicted-sen-bob-menendez-officially-file-re-election-independent-rcna155193

                              Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., filed Monday to run for re-election as an independent, according to two sources with direct knowledge of his plans.

                              NBC News had reported that Menendez had gathered enough signatures to run as an independent for another term in the Senate as he faces a trial on federal bribery charges. He filed one day before the state's deadline for independent candidates, allowing him to collect fewer signatures and still make the ballot; the deadline to run as a Democrat has long passed.

                              The New Jersey Globe first reported that Menendez planned to file Monday. In the end, he filed just over 2,000 signatures, a source told NBC News.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #55

                                I might move across the river just to vote against this guy

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  He'll get some votes, I'm sure. Question is, who gets hurt the most.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    Background:

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/22/menendez-corruption-trial-prosecutors-00159557

                                    Menendez’s attorneys are arguing that some of the most damning evidence against him cannot be shown to jurors without violating lawmakers’ constitutional “speech or debate” privileges. Now prosecutors worry a pending ruling by Judge Sidney Stein could create a class of “super citizens” in Congress who are above the law.

                                    Stein is considering whether jurors can see text messages and phone records that prosecutors say will show Egyptian officials were “frantic about not getting their money’s worth” and Menendez’s wife boasted about her husband’s influence over arms sales.

                                    Prosecutors are already having to dance around some of Menendez’s Senate actions because of the Constitution’s speech or debate clause. It grants a form of immunity to lawmakers that is mostly impenetrable in investigations relating to the official duties of lawmakers, their aides or other congressional officials.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #57

                                    @George-K said in Menendez Indicted:

                                    Background:

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/22/menendez-corruption-trial-prosecutors-00159557

                                    Menendez’s attorneys are arguing that some of the most damning evidence against him cannot be shown to jurors without violating lawmakers’ constitutional “speech or debate” privileges. Now prosecutors worry a pending ruling by Judge Sidney Stein could create a class of “super citizens” in Congress who are above the law.

                                    Stein is considering whether jurors can see text messages and phone records that prosecutors say will show Egyptian officials were “frantic about not getting their money’s worth” and Menendez’s wife boasted about her husband’s influence over arms sales.

                                    Prosecutors are already having to dance around some of Menendez’s Senate actions because of the Constitution’s speech or debate clause. It grants a form of immunity to lawmakers that is mostly impenetrable in investigations relating to the official duties of lawmakers, their aides or other congressional officials.

                                    Have robe, will travel.

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                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                      #58

                                      Silly me!

                                      Menendez is a Demonrat....

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        George K
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                                        https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-news/jurors-in-bob-menendez-trial-come-back-with-note-on-second-day-of-deliberations/

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/16/sen-bob-menendez-found-guilty-in-corruption-trial-00168659

                                          Sen. Bob Menendez on Tuesday was found guilty in his corruption trial, a historic verdict marking a dramatic downfall for New Jersey’s senior senator who was one of the most influential people in Washington D.C.

                                          The 12-member jury found Menendez guilty on all 16 counts after a two-month trial on charges that all but ended his political career. Federal prosecutors accused Menendez of bribery, acting as a foreign agent for Egypt, obstruction of justice, extortion and conspiring to commit those crimes.

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