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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #2

    In the story: "“One professor said that a student in the operating room could not identify a major artery when asked, then berated the professor for putting her on the spot. Another said that students at the end of their clinical rotations don't know basic lab tests and, in some cases, are unable to present patients."

    (insert old man yells at sky picture here)

    I can almost, almost, understand some ignorance about anatomy. But the list of "major" arteries is pretty short. Perhaps a dozen. Perhaps?

    But to complain about being called out on your ignorance? Unforgivable.

    To "present a patient" means to have taken a thorough history, done a physical exam, and compiled a list of possible diagnoses.

    So, on rounds the next morning, you would say...

    Mr. K is a 74 year old caucasian male who presents with intermittent abdominal pain.

    (then a history of where, when, type of pain).

    His physical examination reveals....

    (a thorough physical, not only the abdomen, but everything.

    Differential Diagnosis is:

    1. He's crazy
    2. He has cancer.
    3. ...etc

    Workup should include the following tests:

    1. Bloodwork
    2. CT of abdomen

    ....and so on.

    This process is taught during your SECOND YEAR of medical school - or at least it should be.

    This is frightening stuff.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #3

      So you’re suggesting we start telling Lucas has high cheekbones and remind him that he IS Native to the Americas, that he could still consider Medical School?

      The Brad

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #4

        dramatically lowered admissions standards

        This is how we get equity.

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        • George KG George K

          In the story: "“One professor said that a student in the operating room could not identify a major artery when asked, then berated the professor for putting her on the spot. Another said that students at the end of their clinical rotations don't know basic lab tests and, in some cases, are unable to present patients."

          (insert old man yells at sky picture here)

          I can almost, almost, understand some ignorance about anatomy. But the list of "major" arteries is pretty short. Perhaps a dozen. Perhaps?

          But to complain about being called out on your ignorance? Unforgivable.

          To "present a patient" means to have taken a thorough history, done a physical exam, and compiled a list of possible diagnoses.

          So, on rounds the next morning, you would say...

          Mr. K is a 74 year old caucasian male who presents with intermittent abdominal pain.

          (then a history of where, when, type of pain).

          His physical examination reveals....

          (a thorough physical, not only the abdomen, but everything.

          Differential Diagnosis is:

          1. He's crazy
          2. He has cancer.
          3. ...etc

          Workup should include the following tests:

          1. Bloodwork
          2. CT of abdomen

          ....and so on.

          This process is taught during your SECOND YEAR of medical school - or at least it should be.

          This is frightening stuff.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @George-K said in Standards at UCLA Medical School:

          In the story: "“One professor said that a student in the operating room could not identify a major artery when asked, then berated the professor for putting her on the spot. Another said that students at the end of their clinical rotations don't know basic lab tests and, in some cases, are unable to present patients."

          (insert old man yells at sky picture here)

          I can almost, almost, understand some ignorance about anatomy. But the list of "major" arteries is pretty short. Perhaps a dozen. Perhaps?

          But to complain about being called out on your ignorance? Unforgivable.

          To "present a patient" means to have taken a thorough history, done a physical exam, and compiled a list of possible diagnoses.

          So, on rounds the next morning, you would say...

          Mr. K is a 74 year old caucasian male who presents with intermittent abdominal pain.

          (then a history of where, when, type of pain).

          His physical examination reveals....

          (a thorough physical, not only the abdomen, but everything.

          Differential Diagnosis is:

          1. He's crazy
          2. He has cancer.
          3. ...etc

          Workup should include the following tests:

          1. Bloodwork
          2. CT of abdomen

          ....and so on.

          This process is taught during your SECOND YEAR of medical school - or at least it should be.

          This is frightening stuff.

          You know, I’m starting to root for the AI Doc.

          The Brad

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            Former member of the admission committee writes:

            Read the thread.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #7

              Horrible is too mild of a term...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #8

                The sick part is, this produces racism (of the rational sort where you wonder whether people who look a certain way are only doctors because they look a certain way). But any racism is good racism as far as the left is concerned, as it reinforces the narratives that keep them in power.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  The sick part is, this produces racism (of the rational sort where you wonder whether people who look a certain way are only doctors because they look a certain way). But any racism is good racism as far as the left is concerned, as it reinforces the narratives that keep them in power.

                  CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @Horace said in Standards at UCLA Medical School:

                  the rational sort where you wonder whether people who look a certain way are only doctors because they look a certain way

                  What is even worse is that the doctors will never know if their race got them the MD.

                  They will always wonder if they are qualified.

                  Lucky for me I'll never have to wonder.

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #10

                    Scary!!!

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #12

                        Screenshots, lest the tweets get deleted.

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                        Screenshot 2024-05-30 at 7.32.35 PM.png

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                        • George KG George K

                          Screenshots, lest the tweets get deleted.

                          Screenshot 2024-05-30 at 7.32.05 PM.png

                          Screenshot 2024-05-30 at 7.32.35 PM.png

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #13

                          @George-K said in Standards at UCLA Medical School:

                          Screenshots, lest the tweets get deleted.

                          Screenshot 2024-05-30 at 7.32.05 PM.png

                          Screenshot 2024-05-30 at 7.32.35 PM.png

                          His failure to understand basic manpower and resource allocation principles suggests he was a DEI MBA recipient as well.

                          The Brad

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by George K
                            #14

                            At least the medical school seems to know what a woman is, bless their hearts.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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