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Romney recommends pardon

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @taiwan_girl said in Romney recommends pardon:

    @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

    Also, the POTUS can only pardon federal crimes; it won't affect the "hush money trial" tried in a NY court using NY law.

    Read somewhere that President Biden could put pressure on the NY court to not prosecute. It was mentioned something similar was done by President L. Johnson, but I do not remember the exact situation.

    Bwhahahahaha!

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    @Jolly said in Romney recommends pardon:

    @taiwan_girl said in Romney recommends pardon:

    @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

    Also, the POTUS can only pardon federal crimes; it won't affect the "hush money trial" tried in a NY court using NY law.

    Read somewhere that President Biden could put pressure on the NY court to not prosecute. It was mentioned something similar was done by President L. Johnson, but I do not remember the exact situation.

    Bwhahahahaha!

    Indeed a federalism/state's rights person would not look kindly at a federal official telling a state Attorney General what to prosecute or what not to prosecute under state law.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @Jolly said in Romney recommends pardon:

      @taiwan_girl said in Romney recommends pardon:

      @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

      Also, the POTUS can only pardon federal crimes; it won't affect the "hush money trial" tried in a NY court using NY law.

      Read somewhere that President Biden could put pressure on the NY court to not prosecute. It was mentioned something similar was done by President L. Johnson, but I do not remember the exact situation.

      Bwhahahahaha!

      Indeed a federalism/state's rights person would not look kindly at a federal official telling a state Attorney General what to prosecute or what not to prosecute under state law.

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      Jolly
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      #13

      @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

      @Jolly said in Romney recommends pardon:

      @taiwan_girl said in Romney recommends pardon:

      @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

      Also, the POTUS can only pardon federal crimes; it won't affect the "hush money trial" tried in a NY court using NY law.

      Read somewhere that President Biden could put pressure on the NY court to not prosecute. It was mentioned something similar was done by President L. Johnson, but I do not remember the exact situation.

      Bwhahahahaha!

      Indeed a federalism/state's rights person would not look kindly at a federal official telling a state Attorney General what to prosecute or what not to prosecute under state law.

      Indeed, in a world where states should prosecute state cases and not federal cases, and in a world where the White House does not send a high ranking federal attorney to help with a bogus, lawfare prosecution, you might have a point about the Feds not telling a local prosecutor how to prosecute.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

        @Jolly said in Romney recommends pardon:

        @taiwan_girl said in Romney recommends pardon:

        @Axtremus said in Romney recommends pardon:

        Also, the POTUS can only pardon federal crimes; it won't affect the "hush money trial" tried in a NY court using NY law.

        Read somewhere that President Biden could put pressure on the NY court to not prosecute. It was mentioned something similar was done by President L. Johnson, but I do not remember the exact situation.

        Bwhahahahaha!

        Indeed a federalism/state's rights person would not look kindly at a federal official telling a state Attorney General what to prosecute or what not to prosecute under state law.

        Indeed, in a world where states should prosecute state cases and not federal cases, and in a world where the White House does not send a high ranking federal attorney to help with a bogus, lawfare prosecution, you might have a point about the Feds not telling a local prosecutor how to prosecute.

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        @Jolly said in Romney recommends pardon:

        Indeed, in a world where states should prosecute state cases and not federal cases, and in a world where the White House does not send a high ranking federal attorney to help with a bogus, lawfare prosecution, you might have a point about the Feds not telling a local prosecutor how to prosecute.

        1. The "hush money" case is a state case.

        2. No problem when it's the state that invites the federation to send a high ranking attorney to help.

        3. Also no problem if a state prosecutor wants to refer to federal convictions when prosecuting a state case.

        Go check the constitution and the federalist papers if you want, I don't think the federalists have problem with the states asking the federation for help of for the states referring to federal crimes while prosecuting state cases, they have problem only when it's the federal government barging into state affairs when the state doesn't want it to.

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          #15

          You're so full of shit, your eyes are brown.

          We all know what this case is.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Of course, the case is pollitical. To think otherwise is not possible.

            And in the mind of most (I would say 90%) of the US public, the case is NOT about weather or not he did false business records.

            It is about weather he had an affair with a porn actor, denied it, and now is trying to cover it up.

            (Though it is not what he is on trial for, I think most people, if they look at it with an unbias look, will conclude that yes, it is pretty sure he had the affair with the porn actor.)

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              #17

              I don't think anyone has any doubt about whether it happened, but I think you are mistaken about what 90% of people think it is about.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                I don't think anyone has any doubt about whether it happened, but I think you are mistaken about what 90% of people think it is about.

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                @Mik said in Romney recommends pardon:

                but I think you are mistaken about what 90% of people think it is about.

                Maybe, but I think that this forum board is a bit out of the ordinary. It is generally more well informed than average, and knows a bit more about details of stories that most.

                Granted, I am seeing this from outside, but US citizens I talk to about this, generally mention payment of funds to the porn actor to keep quiet about the affair. Not the fact that he is actually charged with mis labeling business expenses.

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                  #19

                  Again, if Biden has good strategists, he should pardon Trump ahead of the first debate - maybe the week the before. If Trump wins The election (which I think is likely), Trump can pardon himself of the federal crimes so it's likely to happen anyway. This takes away some of Trump's ammunition from the debate and his campaign. As for the state case, I have my doubts regarding a conviction.

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                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                    #20

                    Agreed, Kluurs. The trials are the gas in Trump's tank.

                    Plus, when you've lost The Daily Beast....

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/opinion-mitt-romney-has-a-point-about-pardoning-trump/ar-BB1mymsa?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=48fbc1cb91a24350bd5cf8b4b4fa8bce&ei=14

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      I think TDS sufferers would take it as a severe emotional trauma if Biden pardoned Trump. I don't know if they could stomach voting for anybody in the election, after that.

                      Education is extremely important.

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