Tyrannical Elitist
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What "debates" like this establish is that talking points are rarely outright lies. Oppositional and mutually exclusive viewpoints can each have a large set of talking points that are truthful, as far as they go. "Debates" about infinitely complex social/political issues will inevitably be platforms for people to reiterate their truthful talking points. The complexity of the issues will always foil any fantasy that there are factual, verifiable points of disagreement that an audience can use to determine a winner.
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Of course the left is loathsome base populist and under the direction of its own vanguardist elite. Unfortunately the right, having abandoned conservatism, seeks to emulate the same base populist appeal as the left and in turn, brought forward its own equally disdainful elite vanguard to provide direction.
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Populism in the 21st century seems nihilistic by nature. Horizontal networks of people in the social media age are very good at mobilizing against institutions and ‘elites’ but by nature aren’t really capable of constructive governance. And that’s true regardless of political valence.
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One might find common ground in the disgusting admissions scandals where low IQ elite types like actors pay large sums to get their kids admitted to elite institutions of higher learning where they can “earn” their degrees into the elite society of nonsense where they’re pretty much surrounded by free money if they don’t manage to f it up.
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The American left is entirely a populist movement, where you imagine the elite evil forces are white supremacist patriarchy types. That is the foundation of their virtue.
@Horace said in Tyrannical Elitist:
The American left is entirely a populist movement
Do you think that President Trump is a populist?
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@Horace said in Tyrannical Elitist:
The American left is entirely a populist movement
Do you think that President Trump is a populist?
@taiwan_girl said in Tyrannical Elitist:
@Horace said in Tyrannical Elitist:
The American left is entirely a populist movement
Do you think that President Trump is a populist?
Trump is a populist as a point of fact. The term "populist" is generally used as an epithet by the left, which is strange since it is a populist movement, and has been since the race narrative formed its foundational appeal. More generally, socialism or anything derived from Marxism is always a populist movement. The most prominent non-populist political messaging in our lifetimes that had hope of winning democratically, is the individualism / become successful with hard work messaging classically of the American right. It still underpins even Trump's base, after the "swamp is drained" or whatever.
