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A bad year for Boeing.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #54

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/a-complete-decapitation-three-top-level-executives-at-boeing-resign-amid-safety-concerns-following-alaska-airlines-blowout/


    CNN anchor John Berman called the triple resignation “a complete decapitation” while talking to CNN aviation correspondent Pete Muntean, who called the decisions “a really, really significant shakeup.” This was Muntean’s report:

    The clear explanation here is that this is all stemming from the Alaska Airlines door plug blowout back on January 5th, and the NTSB found that plane left the Boeing factory last October without the four critical bolts that held the door plug on, a serious quality control lapse here. And initially, the fall man was the head of the Boeing MAX program, somebody that a lot of people had not heard of. Now the top executives at the company are going.

    Dave Calhoun, the CEO who came in after the MAX 8 incidents of 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people in two crashes abroad, he is now stepping down at the end of the year, according to this latest release from Boeing. That is really significant, many wondering whether it’s too little, too late after Calhoun made his plea that Boeing airplanes are safe not only on Capitol Hill, the top lawmakers in the Senate committee that oversee aviation, but also to airline CEOs like Alaska Airlines CEO Ben Minicucci, who wanted $150 million in damages from Boeing after that door plug blowout.

    Also, criticism from United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby and American Airlines CEO [Robert Isom], all of these companies, the backbone of their fleets are Boeing airplanes. Many of these companies have orders for more Boeing airplanes. We’re also learning that Larry Kellner, the board chair, will retire. And, Stan Deal, who is the head of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, is also stepping down, promoting a relative newcomer, [Boeing COO] Stephanie Pope, to that position. These have all been people heavily involved in the defense of Boeing after the door plug blowout earlier this year.

    This is a really, really significant shakeup. Many have been wondering if there were going to be changes at the top of the company, and now we are seeing that that is happening right now. It is unfolding. So this is a really huge change, John, and the fact that Boeing is doing this, there is a lot of irony here. Dennis Muilenburg was the CEO at Boeing at the time of the MAX 8 incidents in 2018 and 2019. Dave Calhoun came into power. Now he is leaving as the result of another incident on the MAX line.


    Wow, the only way it could be worse is if it were a bloodbath.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
      George KG Offline
      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #55

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #56

        The problem is they’re everywhere. It seems every other week I’m on a 737

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
        MikM 1 Reply Last reply
        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #57

          Gotta wonder if we're seeing more of these because they're occurring more often, or just being reported more often on social media.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Gotta wonder if we're seeing more of these because they're occurring more often, or just being reported more often on social media.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by Copper
            #58

            @George-K said in A bad year for Boeing.:

            just being reported more often on social media.

            Probably

            https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/ResultsV2.aspx?queryId=04068e3c-cc77-4498-b252-4c04c2fec507

            If that query doesn't work, go here: https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/AviationQueryV2.aspx

            Enter Make Boeing Model 737

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            • taiwan_girlT Online
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              taiwan_girl
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              #59

              https://fortune.com/2024/04/09/air-canada-pilots-boeing-737-idaho-emergency/

              An Air Canada Boeing 737 Max 8 landed safely in Idaho after experiencing an in-flight emergency Tuesday when pilots received a warning light in the flight deck, airline and airport officials said.

              The issue was determined to be a faulty cargo hold indicator, Air Canada said in an email, without elaborating.

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              • taiwan_girlT Online
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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                Dont think this is really bad, just more interesting.

                Boeing 737 Max supplier Spirit AeroSystems is defending its controversial decision to use Dawn dish soap as a lubricant for the aircraft’s door seals. Spirit’s use of soap and other odd, everyday objects like hotel key cards and wet cheesecloths to perform maintenance drew immediate public scrutiny last month. Now, Spirit claims both the dish soap and key card use cases were not only justified, but innovative.

                https://www.popsci.com/technology/boeing-soap-lubricant/

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #61

                  Second Boeing whistleblower dies

                  Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Spirit AeroSystems, went public with claims that the company’s leadership ignored manufacturing defects in Boeing’s 737 MAX. Spirit AeroSystems is a Boeing supplier.

                  Dean, 45, had an active lifestyle and was believed to be in good health prior to his “sudden” death on Tuesday, following the onset of a fast-moving infection. He was stricken with Influenza B and MRSA, and developed pneumonia, according to Fox59.

                  He spent two weeks in critical condition before he died on Tuesday in Oklahoma, according to The Seattle Times.

                  Be seeing you...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    The problem is they’re everywhere. It seems every other week I’m on a 737

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    @jon-nyc said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                    The problem is they’re everywhere. It seems every other week I’m on a 737

                    That or an Airbus 32x model.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG George K

                      Second Boeing whistleblower dies

                      Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Spirit AeroSystems, went public with claims that the company’s leadership ignored manufacturing defects in Boeing’s 737 MAX. Spirit AeroSystems is a Boeing supplier.

                      Dean, 45, had an active lifestyle and was believed to be in good health prior to his “sudden” death on Tuesday, following the onset of a fast-moving infection. He was stricken with Influenza B and MRSA, and developed pneumonia, according to Fox59.

                      He spent two weeks in critical condition before he died on Tuesday in Oklahoma, according to The Seattle Times.

                      Be seeing you...

                      CopperC Offline
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                      @George-K said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                      Be seeing you...

                      He won't talk so good now.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #64

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #65

                          Is this happening more frequently, or is it just being reported more frequently.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • AxtremusA Offline
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                              Bad year for Boeing, GREAT year for Boeing’s CEO!

                              https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/investing/boeing-shareholders-vote-to-approve-usd33-million-ceo-pay-package/index.html

                              Shareholders of embattled airplane maker Boeing approved a pay package of nearly $33 million for outgoing CEO Dave Calhoun at the company’s annual general meeting on Friday.
                              .
                              That’s the highest package ever paid to the company’s CEO and a 45% increase from the $22.6 million he received for 2022. The vast majority of the bump comes from a giant stock bonus granted on top of his more-than-a-million-dollar salary.
                              …

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                Bad year for Boeing, GREAT year for Boeing’s CEO!

                                https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/investing/boeing-shareholders-vote-to-approve-usd33-million-ceo-pay-package/index.html

                                Shareholders of embattled airplane maker Boeing approved a pay package of nearly $33 million for outgoing CEO Dave Calhoun at the company’s annual general meeting on Friday.
                                .
                                That’s the highest package ever paid to the company’s CEO and a 45% increase from the $22.6 million he received for 2022. The vast majority of the bump comes from a giant stock bonus granted on top of his more-than-a-million-dollar salary.
                                …

                                taiwan_girlT Online
                                taiwan_girlT Online
                                taiwan_girl
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                                @Axtremus said in A bad year for Boeing.:

                                Bad year for Boeing, GREAT year for Boeing’s CEO!

                                https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/investing/boeing-shareholders-vote-to-approve-usd33-million-ceo-pay-package/index.html

                                Shareholders of embattled airplane maker Boeing approved a pay package of nearly $33 million for outgoing CEO Dave Calhoun at the company’s annual general meeting on Friday.
                                .
                                That’s the highest package ever paid to the company’s CEO and a 45% increase from the $22.6 million he received for 2022. The vast majority of the bump comes from a giant stock bonus granted on top of his more-than-a-million-dollar salary.
                                …

                                I wonder what the vote % was like in favor vs. against.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  #69

                                  https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/03/business/former-boeing-inspector-scrap-parts-assembly-lines/index.html

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    Maybe things are looking up.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/boeing-s-new-ceo-is-already-making-an-overdue-change-his-first-day-on-the-job/ar-AA1orZzb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=8ea7ffb22b124f27a6a7ff96f4574644&ei=37

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Profits at all costs ruin a company.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
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                                        Yes. It is difficult to understand how that could possibly happen with an aircraft company. Some things are a sacred trust.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Bean-counters.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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