Kristi Nope
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Kristi Nope:
@Horace said in Kristi Nope:
Well hating the animal is a step too far. Everything else might be defensible.
I think making killing a dog a good metaphor for being a good politician is a little too on the nose.
On my part I just don’t get what point she is trying to make by telling the story in the first place. All I can say is that she should have kept her dog leashed when visiting someone’s farm, especially a dog known to be excitable, misbehaved and difficult to train. There are professionals out there who can help in such instances.
Frankly, if I were to meet someone and they would tell me that story, I would think that person to be an idiot who had no business owing a dog (or a firearm) in the first place.
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 02:39 last edited by@Renauda said in Kristi Nope:
On my part I just don’t get what point she is trying to make by telling the story in the first place.
I mean, yeah, that's what I find fascinating, too. She actually thought this was not only an example of good character, but so good she'd put it in a book to boast about herself. But, like I said: politician.
I'm with jodi.
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@Jolly said in Kristi Nope:
Never trust a man that won't kill his own dog.
Or you could, y'know, not be a dipshit dog owner.
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@Jolly said in Kristi Nope:
Never trust a man that won't kill his own dog.
Or you could, y'know, not be a dipshit dog owner.
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 02:41 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Kristi Nope:
@Jolly said in Kristi Nope:
Never trust a man that won't kill his own dog.
Or you could, y'know, not be a dipshit dog owner.
Just paraphrasing Heinlein....
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Kristi Nope:
@Jolly said in Kristi Nope:
Never trust a man that won't kill his own dog.
Or you could, y'know, not be a dipshit dog owner.
Just paraphrasing Heinlein....
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 02:42 last edited by@Jolly said in Kristi Nope:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Kristi Nope:
@Jolly said in Kristi Nope:
Never trust a man that won't kill his own dog.
Or you could, y'know, not be a dipshit dog owner.
Just paraphrasing Heinlein....
Well he had a point but I don't think it applies here.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 02:47 last edited by
Stuff happens with dogs and I’m no absolutist that bad dogs have bad owners. Back when he was in China, my wife’s dog killed some chickens after wrenching his leash from her grip. He’s also bitten her when she’s gotten overconfident about her ability to grab something from him. She took him to dog school when he was young and has always treated him dotingly. But Malamutes are not always the most civilized dogs.
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@Renauda said in Kristi Nope:
On my part I just don’t get what point she is trying to make by telling the story in the first place.
I mean, yeah, that's what I find fascinating, too. She actually thought this was not only an example of good character, but so good she'd put it in a book to boast about herself. But, like I said: politician.
I'm with jodi.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 18:41 last edited by
She promotes the book in the very first sentence. Nuts.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 19:21 last edited by Renauda
What’s even more nuts is that she feels the need to explain herself in addition to promoting her book.
Like George already said she ought to know that sometimes it’s just better to shoot, shovel and shut up about past deeds.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 19:36 last edited by
And then she gave Grasshopper, Cricket’s littermate, to Mitt Romney, who drove Grasshopper across the country in an air conditioned doggy carrier…
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 19:42 last edited by jodi
She hated the dog. She took the untrained/excitable dog hunting - threw it into a overstimulating situation with a bunch of other dogs and birds - in a shock collar - and it “wrecked” the hunt. She stopped at the neighbors the same day, somehow the dog got out of the truck (hard to “escape” a truck without help from an human) and it killed some chickens. She was likely mad and embarrassed and so then she goes home the very same day and shoots the dog. And also shoots the farm goat? She’s got some pretty big issues. And she has no fucking business owning animals. Not all animals are suitable for the jobs we think they are bred to do. Especially if you do a shit job of training/preparing them. That doesn’t mean you get to shoot them when they act like the animals they are. It’s not a dog’s fault when it kills livestock. That is all on the owner. It’s absolutely the responsibility of a dog owner make sure that the dog doesn’t get into a situation where it can kill livestock. If your dog can’t behave off leash, then keep it on a damned leash. I totally get that sometimes the most humane way to deal with a “dangerous” (domesticated) animal is euthanasia (sadly most of those have been messed up by humans due to poor training, neglect or abuse, and they react aggressively out of fear, and are just trying to survive the only way they know how) but I just don’t see how that is the case here. This was a young dog that likely could have lived a good life with a different owner. She really sucks. I hope she never lives this down.
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What’s even more nuts is that she feels the need to explain herself in addition to promoting her book.
Like George already said she ought to know that sometimes it’s just better to shoot, shovel and shut up about past deeds.
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 20:03 last edited by@Renauda said in Kristi Nope:
What’s even more nuts is that she feels the need to explain herself in addition to promoting her book.
Like George already said she ought to know that sometimes it’s just better to shoot, shovel and shut up about past deeds.
At the very least she ought to know what deeds to talk about and what not to. Killing the inconvenient creature you took on falls in the not list.
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She hated the dog. She took the untrained/excitable dog hunting - threw it into a overstimulating situation with a bunch of other dogs and birds - in a shock collar - and it “wrecked” the hunt. She stopped at the neighbors the same day, somehow the dog got out of the truck (hard to “escape” a truck without help from an human) and it killed some chickens. She was likely mad and embarrassed and so then she goes home the very same day and shoots the dog. And also shoots the farm goat? She’s got some pretty big issues. And she has no fucking business owning animals. Not all animals are suitable for the jobs we think they are bred to do. Especially if you do a shit job of training/preparing them. That doesn’t mean you get to shoot them when they act like the animals they are. It’s not a dog’s fault when it kills livestock. That is all on the owner. It’s absolutely the responsibility of a dog owner make sure that the dog doesn’t get into a situation where it can kill livestock. If your dog can’t behave off leash, then keep it on a damned leash. I totally get that sometimes the most humane way to deal with a “dangerous” (domesticated) animal is euthanasia (sadly most of those have been messed up by humans due to poor training, neglect or abuse, and they react aggressively out of fear, and are just trying to survive the only way they know how) but I just don’t see how that is the case here. This was a young dog that likely could have lived a good life with a different owner. She really sucks. I hope she never lives this down.
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 20:06 last edited by@jodi said in Kristi Nope:
She hated the dog. She took the untrained/excitable dog hunting - threw it into a overstimulating situation with a bunch of other dogs and birds - in a shock collar - and it “wrecked” the hunt. She stopped at the neighbors the same day, somehow the dog got out of the truck (hard to “escape” a truck without help from an human) and it killed some chickens. She was likely mad and embarrassed and so then she goes home the very same day and shoots the dog. And also shoots the farm goat? She’s got some pretty big issues. And she has no fucking business owning animals. Not all animals are suitable for the jobs we think they are bred to do. Especially if you do a shit job of training/preparing them. That doesn’t mean you get to shoot them when they act like the animals they are. It’s not a dog’s fault when it kills livestock. That is all on the owner. It’s absolutely the responsibility of a dog owner make sure that the dog doesn’t get into a situation where it can kill livestock. If your dog can’t behave off leash, then keep it on a damned leash. I totally get that sometimes the most humane way to deal with a “dangerous” (domesticated) animal is euthanasia (sadly most of those have been messed up by humans due to poor training, neglect or abuse, and they react aggressively out of fear, and are just trying to survive the only way they know how) but I just don’t see how that is the case here. This was a young dog that likely could have lived a good life with a different owner. She really sucks. I hope she never lives this down.
is that your governor?
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 20:33 last edited by jodi
No. I’m in Montana.
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 20:36 last edited by Renauda
Where in Montana? I have lost family there on my mother’s side. Her mother was born in a little town - then in 1885, an Irish settlement - called Laurin just outside Virginia City. It is now a ghost town, although the big brick RC Church still appeared to be working when I visited there in about 2005. Like going back in time.
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@Renauda said in Kristi Nope:
What’s even more nuts is that she feels the need to explain herself in addition to promoting her book.
Like George already said she ought to know that sometimes it’s just better to shoot, shovel and shut up about past deeds.
At the very least she ought to know what deeds to talk about and what not to. Killing the inconvenient creature you took on falls in the not list.
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 21:40 last edited by@Mik said in Kristi Nope:
@Renauda said in Kristi Nope:
What’s even more nuts is that she feels the need to explain herself in addition to promoting her book.
Like George already said she ought to know that sometimes it’s just better to shoot, shovel and shut up about past deeds.
At the very least she ought to know what deeds to talk about and what not to. Killing the inconvenient creature you took on falls in the not list.
For some reason saying she hates the animal was what stuck out as the most important personal failure of the whole situation.
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Where in Montana? I have lost family there on my mother’s side. Her mother was born in a little town - then in 1885, an Irish settlement - called Laurin just outside Virginia City. It is now a ghost town, although the big brick RC Church still appeared to be working when I visited there in about 2005. Like going back in time.
wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 22:44 last edited by@Renauda We are in Butte. Been here since 2018. That whole valley from Twin Bridges to Virginia City is really beautiful. So many cool old buildings in this part of the world that are still standing because it’s so dry here. Butte has a huge Irish population. Copper mining history (and they are still surface mining here) - an incredible amount of $$$ still comes out of the ground every day. Also, the largest superfund site in the US…
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wrote on 28 Apr 2024, 23:02 last edited by Renauda
Yes I know Butte. Stopped there as well in 2005 to meet and spend a few hours with the resident USEPA super fund administrator. Got the low down on the “Butte Pit” and other facts and issues surrounding the mine and its tailings.
Virginia City and the surrounding area is really something. You would have to drive past Laurin to get to Virginia City. Anyhow that’s where my grandmother was born around 1885 (she was never sure herself but she figured she was two years younger than her older sister who was born in 1883).