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  • George KG George K

    @jolly said in KOOL:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-takes-steps-to-ban-menthol-cigarettes-and-flavored-cigars/ar-BB1gbEKa?ocid=msedgdhp

    The article says that adding menthol makes tobacco more attractive. However, is there any evidence that mentholated cigarettes are actually more harmful than regular?

    (I hated menthol cigarettes, by the way)

    But, let's legalize smoking marijuana!

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    jon-nyc
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    @George-K said in KOOL:

    @jolly said in KOOL:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-takes-steps-to-ban-menthol-cigarettes-and-flavored-cigars/ar-BB1gbEKa?ocid=msedgdhp

    The article says that adding menthol makes tobacco more attractive. However, is there any evidence that mentholated cigarettes are actually more harmful than regular?

    (I hated menthol cigarettes, by the way)

    But, let's legalize smoking marijuana!

    When I was growing up the conventional wisdom was that they were more dangerous but obviously I wasn’t reading any studies.

    They could be doing this as a health equity thing, who knows.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      Copper
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      Anything said by an anti-smoking zealot is true.

      That is just the way it is.

      Remember how you used to be required to believe the women?

      It is like that.

      Joe Biden has maybe 3 or 4 brain cells remaining, I really don't think he is capable of knowing if he hates anyone.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #19

        Biden Administration Shelves Plan to Ban Menthol Cigarettes

        The Biden administration is reversing course on its plan to ban menthol cigarettes, after the White House weighed the potential public-health benefits of banning minty smokes against the political risk of angering some Black voters in an election year.

        The administration said Friday that it is delaying a decision on whether to impose a ban, contending that it needs more time to consult with outside groups on the matter. There is no timeline for the administration to revisit the decision, as President Biden competes with former President Donald Trump for votes in November.

        Menthols account for more than a third of all cigarettes sold in the U.S. each year and are predominantly used by Black and Hispanic smokers. Some 81% of Black smokers used menthols in 2020, compared with 30% of white smokers and 51% of Hispanic smokers, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

        Some Black community leaders had fought the measure, saying a ban would expand the illicit market for cigarettes and lead police to racially profile Black smokers. The American Civil Liberties Union and some members of the Congressional Black Caucus expressed similar concerns.

        The proposed ban has generated much feedback from the civil rights and criminal justice movements, said Xavier Becerra, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. “It’s clear that there are still more conversations to have, and that will take significantly more time,” he said in a statement.

        The Biden administration in 2021 began pursuing a ban on menthol cigarettes, saying the policy move would reduce youth initiation, increase the success rate for smokers trying to quit and address health disparities among people of color. The plan was part of the administration’s Cancer Moonshot initiative to reduce the death rate from cancer.

        The Food and Drug Administration had been expected to adopt a new rule banning menthols last year, but the plan was delayed as the White House mulled its political repercussions.

        Menthols, afaik, aren't more dangerous than regular smokes.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          Stupid idea anyway. If you're going to do anything just ban them all. Then soft drinks, fast food, lard, etc.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Renauda
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            #21

            When I was in school only a few girls and nerdy guys who wanted to be cool but really weren’t or even could be cool,
            smoked menthol cigarettes. Those and few of our mothers.

            Should have been banned for being an abomination of a vegetable supplement even back in those days. Vile.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #22

              I went back and forth between regular and menthol.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Renauda
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                #23

                Once when I had caught a cold I bought a pack of menthols. The vile taste made me cough even more. Pretty sure I gave the nearly full pack to my mother.

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  #24

                  On that note,

                  IMG_4326.jpeg

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I went back and forth between regular and menthol.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #25

                    @Mik said in KOOL:

                    I went back and forth between regular and menthol.

                    Gender fluid, 1970s edition.

                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Mik said in KOOL:

                      I went back and forth between regular and menthol.

                      Gender fluid, 1970s edition.

                      MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      @jon-nyc c’mere and I’ll give you some gender fluid.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        Great line from Family Guy.

                        “Somebody left their gender fluid in the shower”

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
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                          So rude. If you’re gonna beat off in the shower, at least “be a prince - rinse”.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            taiwan_girl
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                            (I will start by saying that I am against cigarettes)

                            But in Indonesia, the most popular type to smoke is a "kretek" cigarette, which is made with cloves. It actually smells pretty good.

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                              Jolly
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                              #30

                              Biden, a man of rock solid beliefs...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Biden, a man of rock solid beliefs...

                                MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                #31

                                @Jolly said in KOOL:

                                Biden, a man of rock solid beliefs...

                                Kool ones, too.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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