Alec Baldwin Charged
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I'm watching Guiterrez-Reed's trial.
It's at the end of the first week, and the state still hasn't rested. The testimony against her, and, for that matter, so many people on the set is damning. It's amazing to hear how unprofessional her behavior was.
An experienced armorer talks about firearm safety on set and finds a TON of potentially dangerous situations:
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Saw a lawyer talking about the charges and discussing the defense's motion to drop charges.
He says the state's responsibilities are to prove, beyond the reasonable doubt, the following things:
- Alec Baldwin pointed the muzzle of what he knew to be a real gun at Hutchins.
- Alec Baldwin pressed the trigger in a manner to fire the gun with the hammer cocked.
- Baldwin failed to check that there was no live ammunition in the gun.
- The unintended discharge of the firearm killed Hutchins.
That's it.
According to New Mexico law "I didn't know it was loaded" is not a defense, and it's been adjudicated in the past in New Mexico's Supreme Court. Court said it made no difference as to who loaded the gun.
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If you get unlucky and accidentally kill someone in an extraordinary circumstance, and there exists prosecutor motivation to convict you of a substantial crime, then they can probably file some charges and craft some jury instructions around those charges such that you're going to prison.
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Nothing died during the posting of this Tweet, although the English language sure took a bit of a beating.
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It's more than just 18 months.
The judge had the option to jail her for 12 months in a jail, not prison, and no felony on her record. She didn't do that, the judge gave her the (surprisingly short) maximum sentence of 18 months - in prison.
Also, she is classified as a "violent offender." That means that, in New Mexico, she has to serve 85% of the sentence - even with time off for good behavior. So, at least 15 months, 1 week.
The judge looked pissed.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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What are the charges Baldwin faces? His role as producer plays a part in this in addition to being the guy that actually pulled the trigger. If the actions of the armorer were that blatantly dangerous? Then he bears responsibility for allowing that culture on his set.
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It's more than just 18 months.
The judge had the option to jail her for 12 months in a jail, not prison, and no felony on her record. She didn't do that, the judge gave her the (surprisingly short) maximum sentence of 18 months - in prison.
Also, she is classified as a "violent offender." That means that, in New Mexico, she has to serve 85% of the sentence - even with time off for good behavior. So, at least 15 months, 1 week.
The judge looked pissed.
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Well, it's kind of a 'you had ONE JOB' scenario. That she would even have allowed live ammunition on a movie set is pretty unbelievable.
@Mik said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
Well, it's kind of a 'you had ONE JOB' scenario.
Actually, she had two jobs - she was also on the crew that took care of props other than firearms. One of her arguments (faulty as it was) is that there was too much pressure to do everything properly and safely.
That she would even have allowed live ammunition on a movie set is pretty unbelievable.
Still unanswered is how that happened. She claims to have been unaware, though there are multiple reports of cast and crew enjoying "extracurricular" shooting with live ammo. But, you're right it was her job to make sure the gun was safe. She was not on set when the gun was handed to Baldwin. Someone else did that (a woman named "Zachary," iirc) who ended up testifying for the state.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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The judge. "You were the armorer. You alone are responsible for turning a safe weapon into a lethal weapon. But for you, a husband would have his wife, and a little boy his mother."
Note, this is the same prosecutor who is teeing up the Baldwin case.
And that will be before the same judge.
ETA: Go to 2:07.
Link to video"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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I would say the judge is doing her job in accordance to the responsibilities her job entails and bestows upon her.
@Renauda said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
I would say the judge is doing her job in accordance to the responsibilities her job entails and bestows upon her.
I watched most of the trial, or at least the nightly summaries.
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Gutierrez's attorney was a doofus. He was incompetent and unengaged. The witnesses he called were worse than useless - they damage her case. During the police interview prior to trial he sat like a turd, and NEVER intervened ("Don't answer that").
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The DA, Morrissey, was really excellent. She's a barracuda with a keen mind and never, ever, lets go. She used to be a public defender, and she knows the ropes.
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The judge was a hard-ass.
Like I said, the judge and the DA will be there in July for Baldwin.
My opinion? He's guilty as well.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Mik said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
Well, it's kind of a 'you had ONE JOB' scenario.
Actually, she had two jobs - she was also on the crew that took care of props other than firearms. One of her arguments (faulty as it was) is that there was too much pressure to do everything properly and safely.
That she would even have allowed live ammunition on a movie set is pretty unbelievable.
Still unanswered is how that happened. She claims to have been unaware, though there are multiple reports of cast and crew enjoying "extracurricular" shooting with live ammo. But, you're right it was her job to make sure the gun was safe. She was not on set when the gun was handed to Baldwin. Someone else did that (a woman named "Zachary," iirc) who ended up testifying for the state.
@George-K said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
@Mik said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
Well, it's kind of a 'you had ONE JOB' scenario.
Actually, she had two jobs - she was also on the crew that took care of props other than firearms. One of her arguments (faulty as it was) is that there was too much pressure to do everything properly and safely.
That she would even have allowed live ammunition on a movie set is pretty unbelievable.
Still unanswered is how that happened. She claims to have been unaware, though there are multiple reports of cast and crew enjoying "extracurricular" shooting with live ammo. But, you're right it was her job to make sure the gun was safe. She was not on set when the gun was handed to Baldwin. Someone else did that (a woman named "Zachary," iirc) who ended up testifying for the state.
Whoa, wait, she wasn’t even on set the day the shooting happened? And she was found guilty? Oh shit, that makes it worse for Baldwin…
The Brad
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The judge. "You were the armorer. You alone are responsible for turning a safe weapon into a lethal weapon. But for you, a husband would have his wife, and a little boy his mother."
Note, this is the same prosecutor who is teeing up the Baldwin case.
And that will be before the same judge.
ETA: Go to 2:07.
Link to video@George-K said in Alec Baldwin Charged:
The judge. "You were the armorer. You alone are responsible for turning a safe weapon into a lethal weapon. But for you, a husband would have his wife, and a little boy his mother."
Note, this is the same prosecutor who is teeing up the Baldwin case.
And that will be before the same judge.
ETA: Go to 2:07.
Link to videoAgain, I think it goes worse for him as the producer than it would if he was just the actor.
