RIP, I guess?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in RIP, I guess?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in RIP, I guess?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in RIP, I guess?:
This idea that you can just draw a line under 200 years of this stuff and say 'everything is ok now' is foolish.
To what extent are we trying?
I think there is a tendency in some quarters to want to just speak about race issues as though they're a recent problem primarily created by liberal white guilt and black criminal culture, as though these occurred in isolation. On the other hand, there's also an inability in other quarters to acknowledge that things have improved and it's not the 1950's any more.
500 years from now, it might be a bit clearer. As LD said, there's only 30 years between Selma and OJ, from a historical perspective it's a blink of an eye.
Those things aren't the same.
Some folks are living in a shitty neighborhood that's been shitty for 70 years because of racial practices and beliefs that were mainstream in the 50s and it's nearly impossible for any improvement to happen as the surrounding city continues to cement itself.
That's entirely different from, say, a weaponized HR department that uses equity as cover for elevating social justice sociopaths who target white males not because of racism, but because the sociopaths know that's exactly the group most likely to call them out on their shenanigans.
The most terrible aspect of the second example is that enough of that happens, and people's appetite to fix the first goes way down. But the sociopaths don't care, they're getting theirs.
@Aqua-Letifer said in RIP, I guess?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in RIP, I guess?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in RIP, I guess?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in RIP, I guess?:
This idea that you can just draw a line under 200 years of this stuff and say 'everything is ok now' is foolish.
To what extent are we trying?
I think there is a tendency in some quarters to want to just speak about race issues as though they're a recent problem primarily created by liberal white guilt and black criminal culture, as though these occurred in isolation. On the other hand, there's also an inability in other quarters to acknowledge that things have improved and it's not the 1950's any more.
500 years from now, it might be a bit clearer. As LD said, there's only 30 years between Selma and OJ, from a historical perspective it's a blink of an eye.
Those things aren't the same.
Some folks are living in a shitty neighborhood that's been shitty for 70 years because of racial practices and beliefs that were mainstream in the 50s and it's nearly impossible for any improvement to happen as the surrounding city continues to cement itself.
That's entirely different from, say, a weaponized HR department that uses equity as cover for elevating social justice sociopaths who target white males not because of racism, but because the sociopaths know that's exactly the group most likely to call them out on their shenanigans.
The most terrible aspect of the second example is that enough of that happens, and people's appetite to fix the first goes way down. But the sociopaths don't care, they're getting theirs.
I know it's complex and messed up in a lot of different ways. Also, it's not always sociopaths in HR, it's sometimes genuinely well-meaning people trying to address issues they see as inequities, but messing things up even more.
If there's one thing we all have in common, it's an ability to point the old finger at other groups, and sometimes even our own group.
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I’ll remind you all that the Bill Clinton Sister Souljah Moment was in 1992…
There was obviously racial unrest in the 90’s. I think we all remember it as being better than it was, but there’s no question that it HAS gotten worse recently. The reasons are up for debate, but it was the stuff in the 90s that shaped Ibram X Kendi, Nikole Hannah-Jones and shaped the educational content and pushed the whole oppressor/victim narrative. Interestingly enough, their work really started becoming mainstream right around when Obama was elected. But you can see a very fast drop in race relations around 2008…
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Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
The Brad
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Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
Yeah, I'm actually more sure about the fact the cops were dirty than I am about the details of what happened.
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Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
Why are you confident about this?
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@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
Why are you confident about this?
@Horace said in RIP, I guess?:
@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
Now wait a minute, let’s not pretend that the case was a slam dunk… There were a LOT of problems with the investigation and the way Mark Fuhrman conducted it. Like I mentioned earlier, I am still confident it was OJ’s son and his dad just helped him cover it.
Why are you confident about this?
To start with, I was suspicious about the kid’s response. There was something when O.J. got to the house, and then the kid’s reaction. Also, during the trial there were a bunch of things that built the suspicion in my mind. The one damning piece of evidence was always the DNA… 1 in 100,000 match, right? Want to bet that his son would have matched? Then later, other things started coming out.
- The kid had been arrested several times for assault and threatening people with knives.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/1994/07/27/oj-simpsons-oldest-son-was-arrested-in-92-attack/
There are rumors the kid was diagnosed with Intermittent Rage Disorder and was on Depakote after hearing voices…
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His alibi was reliant on a hand written time card at the restaurant. The time clock at the restaurant was functional…
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Remember the knit cap found at the scene with dog fur and human hair that did not match O.J.?
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Jason owned gloves like the ones that were found at the scene. Want to bet that they would have fit?
- The kid had been arrested several times for assault and threatening people with knives.
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@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
The footprints?
I wear Beckett Simonen Dress Shoes Want to bet what type Luke wears?
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@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
The footprints?
I wear Beckett Simonen Dress Shoes Want to bet what type Luke wears?
@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
The footprints?
I wear Beckett Simonen Dress Shoes Want to bet what type Luke wears?
I was wondering if OJ tried to clean up.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
The footprints?
I wear Beckett Simonen Dress Shoes Want to bet what type Luke wears?
I was wondering if OJ tried to clean up.
@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
@LuFins-Dad said in RIP, I guess?:
@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
The footprints?
I wear Beckett Simonen Dress Shoes Want to bet what type Luke wears?
I was wondering if OJ tried to clean up.
I think he’s been cleaning up for 30 years…
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I was watching some lawyers discussing the passing of OJ, and one of them brought up an interesting rumor. Supposedly, there was a TON of people visiting OJ in his last days. Someone claims that OJ had his kids sign an NDA.
Possible reasons suggested?
- He admitted to the murders
- He told them were there rest of his money is stashed and how to get it.
But the funniest(?) thing brought up...
From the Amazon listing:
"Originally written by O.J. Simpson, the Goldmans published a new edition of the book in the fall of 2007, which included essays written by members of the Goldman family, a member of the Goldman family legal team, and O.J.’s ghostwriter that reveal the fascinating story behind the bankruptcy case, the book’s publication, and the looming court proceedings, which would eventually lead to his conviction. "
And...
"The Goldman family views the book as his confession and has worked hard to ensure that the public will read this book and learn the truth. This is O.J. Simpson's original manuscript with up to 14,000 words of additional key commentary from those whose lives were forever changed by the heinous crime."
The interesting part is that the Goldman family bought the rights to the book, and being the owners, they kept the title that OJ used, but made a small alteration to the font in one of the words.
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I was watching some lawyers discussing the passing of OJ, and one of them brought up an interesting rumor. Supposedly, there was a TON of people visiting OJ in his last days. Someone claims that OJ had his kids sign an NDA.
Possible reasons suggested?
- He admitted to the murders
- He told them were there rest of his money is stashed and how to get it.
But the funniest(?) thing brought up...
From the Amazon listing:
"Originally written by O.J. Simpson, the Goldmans published a new edition of the book in the fall of 2007, which included essays written by members of the Goldman family, a member of the Goldman family legal team, and O.J.’s ghostwriter that reveal the fascinating story behind the bankruptcy case, the book’s publication, and the looming court proceedings, which would eventually lead to his conviction. "
And...
"The Goldman family views the book as his confession and has worked hard to ensure that the public will read this book and learn the truth. This is O.J. Simpson's original manuscript with up to 14,000 words of additional key commentary from those whose lives were forever changed by the heinous crime."
The interesting part is that the Goldman family bought the rights to the book, and being the owners, they kept the title that OJ used, but made a small alteration to the font in one of the words.
@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
but made a small alteration to the font in one of the words.
What am I seeing there?
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@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
but made a small alteration to the font in one of the words.
What am I seeing there?
@taiwan_girl said in RIP, I guess?:
@George-K said in RIP, I guess?:
but made a small alteration to the font in one of the words.
What am I seeing there?
The word "IF" is in an almost illegible, tiny, font.
Makes it look like OJ's book is titled "I Did It," rather than "If I Did It."
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There was a pdf floating around at one point which I read. I think that’s where I saw OJ’s claim that if she hadn’t opened the door that night with a knife in her hand, none of the rest would have happened. That’s always stuck with me as some resonant truth. But what do I know.
