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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #20

    Seen on X...

    (an attorney comments)

    Hmm, this one is a bit of a quandry. Guy fires first, which would make this obvious, except one problem:

    Police here are in an unmarked vehicle, and plainclothes. How does someone react to a bunch of apparent randos with guns demanding things?

    So, police tactics question then. I would say that it is probably not a good idea for police strategy/tactics/operations to create a situation where others might be able to lawfully shoot you.

    Also, someone get these officers an invitation to join the Avengers if they were able to see this guy had no seatbelt on through that window tint. That's impressive.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
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      1. Window tints that dark should be illegal and subject the vehicle to immediate towing, a fine and removal of window tint before the vehicle can be reclaimed.
      2. Plain clothed cops should never, ever make a routine traffic stop. Period.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly
        1. Window tints that dark should be illegal and subject the vehicle to immediate towing, a fine and removal of window tint before the vehicle can be reclaimed.
        2. Plain clothed cops should never, ever make a routine traffic stop. Period.
        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #22

        @Jolly said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

        Window tints that dark should be illegal and subject the vehicle to immediate towing, a fine and removal of window tint before the vehicle can be reclaimed.

        Yes

        Plain clothed cops should never, ever make a routine traffic stop. Period.

        I want to know more about this. Why was this the case?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #23

          Yeah, especially for a supposed seatbelt violation. Plainclothes? On a residential street?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #24

            I’ve wondered if there is more to this stort

            The Brad

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #25

              I wasn't aware of this: "Reed was out on pre-trial release for a variety of violent felonies related to a shooting he allegedly committed. Did the officers run his tag and know who he was? "

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                I’m mostly curious what Mr Reed looked like at his high school graduation. I hope by some miracle I will chance upon such a photo.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #26

                @Horace said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                I’m mostly curious what Mr Reed looked like at his high school graduation.

                Someone found his mugshot from 5 months ago.

                image.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
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                  #27

                  These sorts of cases keep right wing punditry alive. It shouldn’t take advocate journalists to do a fair job. But we’re left with Matt Walsh to report these stories as they are.

                  Link to video

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Jolly said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                    Window tints that dark should be illegal and subject the vehicle to immediate towing, a fine and removal of window tint before the vehicle can be reclaimed.

                    Yes

                    Plain clothed cops should never, ever make a routine traffic stop. Period.

                    I want to know more about this. Why was this the case?

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    @George-K said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                    @Jolly said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                    Window tints that dark should be illegal and subject the vehicle to immediate towing, a fine and removal of window tint before the vehicle can be reclaimed.

                    Yes

                    Plain clothed cops should never, ever make a routine traffic stop. Period.

                    I want to know more about this. Why was this the case?

                    I think the seatbelt statement was BS. You couldn't tell if Santa Claus was driving that vehicle, due to the window tint.

                    Besides (and I haven't seen the whole video from when the decision to stop him originated), that's a helluva lot of cops for a traffic stop. And a lot of plainsclothes guys for most things.

                    As for why plainsclothes guys shouldn't make stops...It leads to confusion. Any perp can have lights on an unmarked car. You want a marked car with a uniformed officer to make the stop.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @George-K said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                      @Jolly said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                      Window tints that dark should be illegal and subject the vehicle to immediate towing, a fine and removal of window tint before the vehicle can be reclaimed.

                      Yes

                      Plain clothed cops should never, ever make a routine traffic stop. Period.

                      I want to know more about this. Why was this the case?

                      I think the seatbelt statement was BS. You couldn't tell if Santa Claus was driving that vehicle, due to the window tint.

                      Besides (and I haven't seen the whole video from when the decision to stop him originated), that's a helluva lot of cops for a traffic stop. And a lot of plainsclothes guys for most things.

                      As for why plainsclothes guys shouldn't make stops...It leads to confusion. Any perp can have lights on an unmarked car. You want a marked car with a uniformed officer to make the stop.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @Jolly said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                      due to the window tint.

                      https://www.tinting-laws.com/illinois/

                      Tint darkness for SUV and vans:

                      Windshield: Non-reflective tint is allowed on the top 6 inches of the windshield.
                      Front Side windows: Must allow more than 50% of light in.
                      Back Side windows: Any darkness can be used.
                      Rear Window: Any darkness can be used.

                      Tint reflection for SUV and vans:

                      Front Side windows: Must be non reflective, state law is not specific about what this means.
                      Back Side windows: Must be non reflective.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                        Do you attribute that to the fact that you are white? Or that you didn’t pull a nine and try to bust a cap in their ass?

                        I think it was a little bit of both.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        @Horace said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Salt Trucks in Chicago:

                        Do you attribute that to the fact that you are white? Or that you didn’t pull a nine and try to bust a cap in their ass?

                        I think it was a little bit of both.

                        Look at you wallowing in your didn’t-pull-a-gun privilege.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/657662449-dexter-reed-felon-killed-after-he-shot-at-police-received-20-832-ppp-loan-for-his-transportation-business

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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