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On Scotus and the election

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:03 last edited by
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    Breyer, RBG, Thomas could easily end up being replaced in the next term.

    If Biden wins and chooses pretty lefty folks (and they get confirmed), it's conceivable that the center of the court will be Elena Kagan.

    If Trump wins and chooses pretty righty folks (and they get confirmed), it's conceivable that the center of the court will be Neil Gorsuch.

    Wow and wow.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • J jon-nyc
      17 Jul 2020, 22:03

      Breyer, RBG, Thomas could easily end up being replaced in the next term.

      If Biden wins and chooses pretty lefty folks (and they get confirmed), it's conceivable that the center of the court will be Elena Kagan.

      If Trump wins and chooses pretty righty folks (and they get confirmed), it's conceivable that the center of the court will be Neil Gorsuch.

      Wow and wow.

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      Loki
      wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:06 last edited by Loki
      #2

      @jon-nyc said in On Scotus and the election:

      Breyer, RBG, Thomas could easily end up being replaced in the next term.

      If Biden wins and chooses pretty lefty folks (and they get confirmed), it's conceivable that the center of the court will be Elena Kagan.

      If Trump wins and chooses pretty righty folks (and they get confirmed), it's conceivable that the center of the court will be Neil Gorsuch.

      Wow and wow.

      When was the last most important Supreme Court decision that wasn’t narrowly written?

      Citizen’s United?
      Obergefell v Hodges?

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:07 last edited by
        #3

        Two weeks ago?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • J jon-nyc
          17 Jul 2020, 22:07

          Two weeks ago?

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          Loki
          wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:10 last edited by Loki
          #4

          @jon-nyc said in On Scotus and the election:

          Two weeks ago?

          I don’t think any of them were landmark in terms of closing out on an issue but admittedly I wasn’t paying that close attention.

          And I’m not counting the ones that weren’t close.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:13 last edited by
            #5

            Expanding the civil rights act to cover transgender is very consequential and will spread to other areas of law.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • J jon-nyc
              17 Jul 2020, 22:13

              Expanding the civil rights act to cover transgender is very consequential and will spread to other areas of law.

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              Loki
              wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 22:17 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in On Scotus and the election:

              Expanding the civil rights act to cover transgender is very consequential and will spread to other areas of law.

              Even conservative court passed that though.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Jul 2020, 23:01 last edited by
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                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 01:35 last edited by
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                  jon it's not clear to me who you think would nominate better justices, Trump or Biden? If it makes it easier to answer the question, imagine it was some other Republican in the white house doing the nominating who would nominate exactly the same people as Trump, but who wasn't Trump.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 01:42 last edited by
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                    I would almost certainly be unhappy with either. Here I was just commenting on what a wide swing three selections could make.

                    I generally didn’t mind GOP justices before they farmed out the selection to the federalist society.

                    I’d probably like who Biden would have picked in 2008. Today there’s a decent chance he would find someone far too activist for my taste. Like Sotomayor.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 01:44 last edited by
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                      It’s not obvious someone other than Trump would promise before being elected that the Federalist Society would curate his list.

                      Trump had to do that, or felt he did anyway, to reassure the Christian Right given his less than stellar resume as a cultural conservative.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        18 Jul 2020, 01:44

                        It’s not obvious someone other than Trump would promise before being elected that the Federalist Society would curate his list.

                        Trump had to do that, or felt he did anyway, to reassure the Christian Right given his less than stellar resume as a cultural conservative.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 18 Jul 2020, 01:49 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in On Scotus and the election:

                        It’s not obvious someone other than Trump would promise before being elected that the Federalist Society would curate his list.

                        Trump had to do that, or felt he did anyway, to reassure the Christian Right given his less than stellar resume as a cultural conservative.

                        I agree but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t fit the Trump Doctine. Call it serendipity.

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