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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    My PCP is business casual.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      No, youngsters today would rather look like some rando guy on a date at Red Lobster, than the physicians they are.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        In a smaller place, where pretty much everyone knows everyone, I'm not sure of the need - other than to carry your shit around: stethoscope (not around the neck, pleas), basic exam tools (opthalmoscope, otoscope) your phone, a book of your patients, the Merck Manual).

        That is, if you examine your patients. These days, I'm not sure cardiologists know which end of a stethoscope to use.

        But, in the comments in that thread, I found these:

        I stopped wearing a white coat decades ago. As a consulting internist with a tall stature. I found patients were more comfortable and open when I did not wear a starched white coat. They were more likely to open up about worries, reveal the hints of functional illness and more open to dealing with the tough diagnoses. With the white coat I was perceived as intimidating, without the white coat, patients were more relaxed and open to discussing life style issues, life stresses, substance abuse. My ability to help these patients improved without the white coat.

        A lot of discussion on how "everyone wears a white coat now."

        I've seen new name tags with a photo of the person, their first (not last) name and "Physician" or "Nurse" below that.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #5

          FIL went to the ED via ambulance two nights ago. His problem was self-induced hypoglycemia, but even after the EMT gave some D10, he was still cognitively impaired.

          He never saw the doctor in the ED. They did a catscan, drew troponin, BMP, BNP, CBC and put him on telemetry. After a few hours, the nurse walked in with his discharge papers.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            I might start wearing a white coat to work and see what people say. Preferably not one of the ones that fasten at the back.

            I was only joking

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #7

              The nurse practitioner at my family practitioner wears one. My doctor doesn’t…

              The Brad

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                My primary care doctor wears a long white coat.
                His interns, which I have seen 3 or 4, mostly wear colored short-sleeved scrubs, IIRC.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  Why are their coats white when their rubber gloves are blue?

                  I was only joking

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                  • George KG George K

                    In a smaller place, where pretty much everyone knows everyone, I'm not sure of the need - other than to carry your shit around: stethoscope (not around the neck, pleas), basic exam tools (opthalmoscope, otoscope) your phone, a book of your patients, the Merck Manual).

                    That is, if you examine your patients. These days, I'm not sure cardiologists know which end of a stethoscope to use.

                    But, in the comments in that thread, I found these:

                    I stopped wearing a white coat decades ago. As a consulting internist with a tall stature. I found patients were more comfortable and open when I did not wear a starched white coat. They were more likely to open up about worries, reveal the hints of functional illness and more open to dealing with the tough diagnoses. With the white coat I was perceived as intimidating, without the white coat, patients were more relaxed and open to discussing life style issues, life stresses, substance abuse. My ability to help these patients improved without the white coat.

                    A lot of discussion on how "everyone wears a white coat now."

                    I've seen new name tags with a photo of the person, their first (not last) name and "Physician" or "Nurse" below that.

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                    Axtremus
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                    @George-K

                    These days, I'm not sure cardiologists know which end of a stethoscope to use.

                    My primary care doctor is again “old school” in this regard. He still uses a stethoscope (which he carries around), one side to listen to the lungs, the other side to listen to the carotid arteries. He seems to train his interns this way too. :man-shrugging:

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @George-K

                      These days, I'm not sure cardiologists know which end of a stethoscope to use.

                      My primary care doctor is again “old school” in this regard. He still uses a stethoscope (which he carries around), one side to listen to the lungs, the other side to listen to the carotid arteries. He seems to train his interns this way too. :man-shrugging:

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @Axtremus said in Support for White Coats:

                      He still uses a stethoscope (which he carries around), one side to listen to the lungs, the other side to listen to the carotid arteries

                      Actually, the diaphragm on the stethoscope (the flat side) is for hearing higher-pitched sounds, and the bell is for lower frequencies. There have been times when I couldn't hear a murmur with the bell, but with the diaphragm, yes.

                      Also, if i had listened to someone's heart or lungs through a piece of clothing, I would have failed that course. Today, everyone does it. Considering the availability of imaging, etc, the "art" of diagnosing someone with a physical exam is becoming lost.

                      As a side note, in the OR, I used to use an "esophageal" stethoscope. It was a long tube with a bladder at the end. I'd position it behind the heart in the esophagus. Amazing what you could hear when you're about 5 mm from the heart.

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                      I had a custom earpiece that would attach to the stethoscope.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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