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Would this guy even be nominated today?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    As for the question, he’d have as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP. They’d both be lucky not to be booed off the stage.

    And we’re definitely worse off for it.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      Indeed. Both parties have come to the point where good ideas fall to orthodoxy.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        As for the question, he’d have as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP. They’d both be lucky not to be booed off the stage.

        And we’re definitely worse off for it.

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        @jon-nyc said in Would this guy even be nominated today?:

        as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP

        Curious.

        What Reagan policies would todays GOP consider non-starters?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Neo-liberalism, Anti-Russian imperialism, free trade, immigration compromises, compromises in general with a democratic congress, strong support of western alliance.

          Also he was too optimistic in general. That doesn’t sell to magastan.

          Just off the top of my head.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            To be sure, there’s plenty in the GOP that still support all that. But they’re not a majority, and today they’re called RINOs.

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              As for the question, he’d have as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP. They’d both be lucky not to be booed off the stage.

              And we’re definitely worse off for it.

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              @jon-nyc said in Would this guy even be nominated today?:

              As for the question, he’d have as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP. They’d both be lucky not to be booed off the stage.

              And we’re definitely worse off for it.

              Be careful, you're showing your bias.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Surely it’s my opinion that the movement of the parties was/is bad for the country.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  Reagan could have run as a centrist Dem.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    In all fairness, Clinton's positions were being driven by the thumping they got in the midterms and the way the socialized healthcare plan they were pushing was thoroughly trounced. They initially tried pushing leftist policies and the American people pushed back hard.

                    Of course, if I remember correctly, the primary issues in the Bush-Gore election were school choice, Social Security reform, and tax policy...

                    The Brad

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                      And don't forget this from 1994 -

                      Link to video

                      The Brad

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                        Oh man, this is leading down a frigging great Youtube rabbit hole...

                        Link to video

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          In all fairness, Clinton's positions were being driven by the thumping they got in the midterms and the way the socialized healthcare plan they were pushing was thoroughly trounced. They initially tried pushing leftist policies and the American people pushed back hard.

                          Of course, if I remember correctly, the primary issues in the Bush-Gore election were school choice, Social Security reform, and tax policy...

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Would this guy even be nominated today?:

                          In all fairness, Clinton's positions were being driven by the thumping they got in the midterms and the way the socialized healthcare plan they were pushing was thoroughly trounced. They initially tried pushing leftist policies and the American people pushed back hard.

                          Of course, if I remember correctly, the primary issues in the Bush-Gore election were school choice, Social Security reform, and tax policy...

                          Don't forget, Carrville had input into the Clinton Campaign. Carrville is a political animal, Clinton is a political chameleon with a JFK bent, so what you have is some political gumbo with Arkansas rice. It may not be Clinton's core beliefs, but as pointed out the other day, if you don't get elected, you don't have as much power to change anything.

                          The Dems are very good at taking a small bite, then coming back a few years later for another bite, then rinse and repeat until the end goal is finally achieved.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Would this guy even be nominated today?:

                            In all fairness, Clinton's positions were being driven by the thumping they got in the midterms and the way the socialized healthcare plan they were pushing was thoroughly trounced. They initially tried pushing leftist policies and the American people pushed back hard.

                            Of course, if I remember correctly, the primary issues in the Bush-Gore election were school choice, Social Security reform, and tax policy...

                            Don't forget, Carrville had input into the Clinton Campaign. Carrville is a political animal, Clinton is a political chameleon with a JFK bent, so what you have is some political gumbo with Arkansas rice. It may not be Clinton's core beliefs, but as pointed out the other day, if you don't get elected, you don't have as much power to change anything.

                            The Dems are very good at taking a small bite, then coming back a few years later for another bite, then rinse and repeat until the end goal is finally achieved.

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                            @Jolly

                            The Dems are very good at taking a small bite, then coming back a few years later for another bite, then rinse and repeat until the end goal is finally achieved.

                            You have mentioned that now a couple of times.

                            Here:

                            https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/30347/trump-abortion/13?_=1712420046731

                            I can only assume then that the actual end goal is anything but compromise on any of these contentious issues.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              As for the question, he’d have as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP. They’d both be lucky not to be booed off the stage.

                              And we’re definitely worse off for it.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Would this guy even be nominated today?:

                              As for the question, he’d have as much chance as Ronald Reagan would in today’s GOP. They’d both be lucky not to be booed off the stage.

                              And we’re definitely worse off for it.

                              Agree 100%. The extreme sides of each side seem to have the agenda right now. Unfortunate.

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