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    Axtremus
    wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 03:28 last edited by Axtremus 4 Oct 2020, 03:38
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    https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-gop-upends-gov-kellys-limits-church-services-and-potentially-all-gatherings

    TOPEKA, Kansas — Kansas may not have any limits on the number of people who can safely gather — at all.
    Republican leaders on the Legislative Coordinating Council voted Wednesday to overturn the Democratic governor’s executive order banning churches and funerals from having more than 10 people at services, which followed a wider directive from March 24.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 10:19 last edited by
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      They need to read about the Chicago guy and the people infected at the funeral.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        10 Apr 2020, 10:19

        They need to read about the Chicago guy and the people infected at the funeral.

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        George K
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        @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

        They need to read about the Chicago guy and the people infected at the funeral.

        Yup. Scary.

        https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/295/cdc-traces-chicago-coronavirus-outbreak-to-two-family-gatherings?_=1586519141394

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 12:29 last edited by
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          We're being badly let down by these people. They're either pathetically weak or woefully uninformed.

          I was only joking

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            Jolly
            wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 13:02 last edited by Jolly 4 Oct 2020, 13:03
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            Or, their faith is strong.

            Or, maybe the pastor has a note due on the beemer.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Aqua Letifer
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              • J Jolly
                10 Apr 2020, 13:02

                Or, their faith is strong.

                Or, maybe the pastor has a note due on the beemer.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 17:39 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                Or, their faith is strong.

                Or, maybe the pastor has a note due on the beemer.

                What‘s the excuse for Kansas’ Legislative Coordinating Council?

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 17:41 last edited by
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                  https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-gov-kelly-asking-court-keep-coronavirus-ban-large-gatherings-including-churches

                  Kansas‘ Governor is suing, she is “Asking [the] Court To Keep Coronavirus Ban On Large Gatherings, Including Churches”.

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                    10 Apr 2020, 17:39

                    @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                    Or, their faith is strong.

                    Or, maybe the pastor has a note due on the beemer.

                    What‘s the excuse for Kansas’ Legislative Coordinating Council?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 18:32 last edited by
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                    @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                    @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                    Or, their faith is strong.

                    Or, maybe the pastor has a note due on the beemer.

                    What‘s the excuse for Kansas’ Legislative Coordinating Council?

                    Maybe that's what they believe? Maybe they think an immortal soul is worth more than this earthly life?

                    You may not agree, but there are reasons.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 20:02 last edited by
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                      The part that's iffy is when one's belief on what happens in the afterlife affects the health of others.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 20:05 last edited by
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                        This seems like a difficult thing to get people to come to agreement on.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          10 Apr 2020, 20:02

                          The part that's iffy is when one's belief on what happens in the afterlife affects the health of others.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 20:37 last edited by
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                          @xenon said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                          The part that's iffy is when one's belief on what happens in the afterlife affects the health of others.

                          Only if it affects others. In NYC, it's probably around 100%. In Kansas, maybe.

                          I wouldn't do it, but I understand the sentiment.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 22:42 last edited by Axtremus 4 Oct 2020, 22:43
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                            There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                            As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

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                              10 Apr 2020, 22:42

                              There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                              As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 22:46 last edited by
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                              @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                              There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                              As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                              Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                10 Apr 2020, 22:46

                                @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                                Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 10 Apr 2020, 23:52 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                                Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

                                Sure.
                                There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                As a matter of a state's public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weight a little more?

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                                  10 Apr 2020, 23:52

                                  @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                  @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                  There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                  As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                                  Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

                                  Sure.
                                  There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                  As a matter of a state's public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weight a little more?

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 00:17 last edited by
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                                  @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                  @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                  @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                  There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                  As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                                  Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

                                  Sure.
                                  There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                  As a matter of a state's public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weight a little more?

                                  In this country, the individual, until he endangers someone else by his actions.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    11 Apr 2020, 00:17

                                    @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                    As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                                    Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

                                    Sure.
                                    There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                    As a matter of a state's public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weight a little more?

                                    In this country, the individual, until he endangers someone else by his actions.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 11:29 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    @Jolly said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    @Axtremus said in Kansas - church and funeral attendence vs COVID-19:

                                    There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                    As a matter of public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weigh a little more?

                                    Last time I looked, this was America and most of the can and can't do stuff revolves around the state.

                                    Sure.
                                    There is sentiment, and there is reason.
                                    As a matter of a state's public policy to deal with a pandemic, which one should weight a little more?

                                    In this country, the individual, until he endangers someone else by his actions.

                                    The question is whether sentiment or reason should weigh more as a matter of a state’s public policy to deal with a pandemic.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 13:03 last edited by
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                                      https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-supreme-court-sides-governor-preserving-ban-large-church-services

                                      Kansas Supreme Court Sides With Governor, Preserving Ban On Large Church Services

                                      Reason prevailed.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 30 May 2020, 12:28 last edited by Axtremus
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                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-considers-churches-demands-that-states-lift-pandemic-restrictions/2020/05/29/af07b918-a1b2-11ea-81bb-c2f70f01034b_story.html

                                        Supreme Court, in rare late-night ruling, says California may enforce certain restrictions on religious gatherings

                                        “ The Supreme Court late Friday rejected a California church’s challenge of the state’s new pandemic-related rules on worship services, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. joining the court’s liberals in the 5-to-4 vote.

                                        Roberts wrote that state officials such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) had leeway to impose restrictions to prevent the spread of coronavirus, and had not singled out places of worship for unfair treatment.
                                        ...”

                                        https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Supreme-Court-votes-5-4-to-let-Gov-Newsom-15304978.php

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