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Sweden - the world's cautionary tale

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    Sure, they're willing to sacrifice more of their citizens in order to stay open. That's not a trade-off that's impossible to understand. There is value in maintaining an open society, regardless of any dubious assertion that there is no economic benefit to it as compared to a lock down. If the Swedes want to stay the course with an open society, I respect that. I won't be among those trying to heap shame on them. I am curious what the discussion is like among the citizens there.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Sure, they're willing to sacrifice more of their citizens in order to stay open. That's not a trade-off that's impossible to understand. There is value in maintaining an open society, regardless of any dubious assertion that there is no economic benefit to it as compared to a lock down. If the Swedes want to stay the course with an open society, I respect that. I won't be among those trying to heap shame on them. I am curious what the discussion is like among the citizens there.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      @Horace said in Sweden - the world's cautionary tale:

      I am curious what the discussion is like among the citizens there.

      None of the people who died have complained, which is a bit suspicious.

      I was only joking

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        Sweden had 0 coronavirus cases today. Anyone know why?

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Because they're all dead? Has anybody heard from a Swede lately? Maybe someone should pick up a phone.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Because they're all dead? Has anybody heard from a Swede lately? Maybe someone should pick up a phone.

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            @Horace said in Sweden - the world's cautionary tale:

            Because they're all dead? Has anybody heard from a Swede lately? Maybe someone should pick up a phone.

            Cases have steadily declined to 0 of late but it keeps appearing in the news, can’t figure out the disconnect.

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              That's cool. What do you make of it, Loki?

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Where are you seeing that?

                Worldometers says there were 34.

                https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Johns Hopkins says 175

                  https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

                  Screen Shot 2020-07-15 at 11.15.00 AM.png

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    That's cool. What do you make of it, Loki?

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                    @jon-nyc said in Sweden - the world's cautionary tale:

                    That's cool. What do you make of it, Loki?

                    I only have no clue. It’s a mystery because compared to Norway and Finland they are bad. So if they re-shut down it would be massively quick. Or they test less?

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Johns Hopkins says 175

                      https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

                      Screen Shot 2020-07-15 at 11.15.00 AM.png

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                      @jon-nyc said in Sweden - the world's cautionary tale:

                      Johns Hopkins says 175

                      https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

                      Screen Shot 2020-07-15 at 11.15.00 AM.png

                      I think this is cases, not deaths

                      Deaths:

                      ![alt text](0d7a52fd-d478-4565-8fc9-60aeba70893c-image.png image url)

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