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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    CDC is using the higher NY number

    I can’t upload the screen shot because it’s too big

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      No I think they’re wrong by minimum a factor of 2.

      My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        I assume the fatality rate will inevitably decrease after the first wave of infections, since those who were at the bleeding edge of risk will have already died or become immune.

        Education is extremely important.

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          No I think they’re wrong by minimum a factor of 2.

          My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

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          @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

          No I think they’re wrong by minimum a factor of 2.

          My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

          CDC revised the estimate again. As a reminder, in the first post of this thread, their 'best estimate' scenario had an IFR of 0.25. Their new update, published Friday, increased it to 0.65%, smack in the middle of my range.

          https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

            No I think they’re wrong by minimum a factor of 2.

            My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

            CDC revised the estimate again. As a reminder, in the first post of this thread, their 'best estimate' scenario had an IFR of 0.25. Their new update, published Friday, increased it to 0.65%, smack in the middle of my range.

            https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

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            @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

            @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

            My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

            CDC revised the estimate again. As a reminder, in the first post of this thread, their 'best estimate' scenario had an IFR of 0.4. Their new update, published Friday, increased it to 0.65%, smack in the middle of my range.

            https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

            I’ll take credit too as the Diamond Princess example I was using very early on seems to have stood the test of time.

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              #57

              You're being a bit too generous with yourself. You were touting the DP when there were only 6 or 7 fatalities and pointed out that it needed to be adjusted downward because of the age distribution on the ship. You pushed back repeatedly when I pointed out how many of the cases weren't resolved yet.

              Now there are 13 deaths out of 712 cases, for an IFR of 1.8%.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Screen Shot 2020-07-13 at 1.12.26 PM.png

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                  No I think they’re wrong by minimum a factor of 2.

                  My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

                  CDC revised the estimate again. As a reminder, in the first post of this thread, their 'best estimate' scenario had an IFR of 0.25. Their new update, published Friday, increased it to 0.65%, smack in the middle of my range.

                  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

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                  @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                  @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                  No I think they’re wrong by minimum a factor of 2.

                  My guess is 0.5<IFR<0.75

                  CDC revised the estimate again. As a reminder, in the first post of this thread, their 'best estimate' scenario had an IFR of 0.25. Their new update, published Friday, increased it to 0.65%, smack in the middle of my range.

                  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

                  Good job jon.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    You're being a bit too generous with yourself. You were touting the DP when there were only 6 or 7 fatalities and pointed out that it needed to be adjusted downward because of the age distribution on the ship. You pushed back repeatedly when I pointed out how many of the cases weren't resolved yet.

                    Now there are 13 deaths out of 712 cases, for an IFR of 1.8%.

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                    @jon-nyc said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                    You're being a bit too generous with yourself. You were touting the DP when there were only 6 or 7 fatalities and pointed out that it needed to be adjusted downward because of the age distribution on the ship. You pushed back repeatedly when I pointed out how many of the cases weren't resolved yet.

                    Now there are 13 deaths out of 712 cases, for an IFR of 1.8%.

                    Sorry but that is not age adjusted.

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                      New NHS study of 17M tracked over 3 months

                      Summary
                      Age 80 -20 times more likely to die than in your 50’s
                      -100 times more likely to die than under 40

                      Men 59% more likely to die

                      Death rates:

                      18-39. .06%
                      40-49. .30%
                      50-59. 1%
                      60-69. 2.4%
                      70-79. 6.08%
                      80+. 20.61%

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                        New NHS study of 17M tracked over 3 months

                        Summary
                        Age 80 -20 times more likely to die than in your 50’s
                        -100 times more likely to die than under 40

                        Men 59% more likely to die

                        Death rates:

                        18-39. .06%
                        40-49. .30%
                        50-59. 1%
                        60-69. 2.4%
                        70-79. 6.08%
                        80+. 20.61%

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                        @Loki said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                        New NHS study of 17M tracked over 3 months

                        Summary
                        Age 80 -20 times more likely to die than in your 50’s
                        -100 times more likely to die than under 40

                        Men 59% more likely to die

                        Death rates:

                        18-39. .06%
                        40-49. .30%
                        50-59. 1%
                        60-69. 2.4%
                        70-79. 6.08%
                        80+. 20.61%

                        Cite?

                        Please love yourself.

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                          @Loki said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                          New NHS study of 17M tracked over 3 months

                          Summary
                          Age 80 -20 times more likely to die than in your 50’s
                          -100 times more likely to die than under 40

                          Men 59% more likely to die

                          Death rates:

                          18-39. .06%
                          40-49. .30%
                          50-59. 1%
                          60-69. 2.4%
                          70-79. 6.08%
                          80+. 20.61%

                          Cite?

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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                          @Loki said in CDC revises fatality rate:

                          New NHS study of 17M tracked over 3 months

                          Summary
                          Age 80 -20 times more likely to die than in your 50’s
                          -100 times more likely to die than under 40

                          Men 59% more likely to die

                          Death rates:

                          18-39. .06%
                          40-49. .30%
                          50-59. 1%
                          60-69. 2.4%
                          70-79. 6.08%
                          80+. 20.61%

                          Cite?

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/health/coronavirus-risk-factors.html

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