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Speaking of Chevron Deference

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #2

    I'll agree that #5 is a longshot.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      How difficult would it be to pass a constitutional amendment to eliminate birthright citizenship?

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        Straightforward in theory, Impossible in practice

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          This was my prognostication next door after the Dobbs decision:

          What else do you think they’ll do after overruling Roe/Casey?

          My predictions:

          1). end affirmative action, perhaps in a sweeping way prohibiting any race based preferences such as those creeping into medicine.

          1. end ‘Chevron deference’, and perhaps other restrictions of the power of the administrative state.

          2. chip away at gun control measures

          3. allow limited religious exceptions to LGBT inclusion (eg wedding cake guy)

          Less likely but possible:

          1. end birthright citizenship

          What they won’t do:

          1. reverse oberfell or bostock

          Anyone else care to make predictions?

          I’d still stand by this.

          CopperC Offline
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          @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Chevron Deference:

          1). end affirmative action, perhaps in a sweeping way prohibiting any race based preferences such as those creeping into medicine on course to destroy everything.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #6

            The ruling wasn’t sweeping, but I think there will be others that touch on federal and state benefits, employment, and medicine.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • kluursK kluurs

              How difficult would it be to pass a constitutional amendment to eliminate birthright citizenship?

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              @kluurs said in Speaking of Chevron Deference:

              How difficult would it be to pass a constitutional amendment to eliminate birthright citizenship?

              Wasn't there a court case which challenged that? At question was, "What does 'Subject to the laws of the United States' mean?"

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #8

                Yes, in 1898. They established that people born here of foreign parents without diplomatic immunity are citizens.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Yes, in 1898. They established that people born here of foreign parents without diplomatic immunity are citizens.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Chevron Deference:

                  Yes, in 1898. They established that people born here of foreign parents without diplomatic immunity are citizens.

                  U.S. vs. Wong Kim Ark

                  https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/240592

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Straightforward in theory, Impossible in practice

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Chevron Deference:

                    Straightforward in theory, Impossible in practice

                    Why not? It would be a simple amendment and I think it could pass. What makes enforcement impossible?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Enforcement isn’t hard, passage is. Like any other amendment.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        I’m not sure we have the ability to pass amendments anymore. It’s always going to be a weighty topic in a soundbite age. Not sure we have the attention span.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          I kind of agree with ending it. There are a lot of countries that do not allow citizenship just because you were born there.

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                            This country has the same birth right to citizenship as the US. The difference here being that is not constitutional but rather, contained in the Citizenship Act and therefore easily amended through introducing amending legislation in Parliament. There are currently some discussions about eliminating the birthright section going forward but not enough to spur any debate among legislators. I would certainly support its amendment and elimination.

                            Elbows up!

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