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Wide vs. Close. Maybe it doesn't really matter?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://slate.com/human-interest/2024/01/wide-close-bench-press-grip-fitness-advice-hacks.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by Mik
      #2

      The elbow and shoulder are both joints. I'd do what promotes less wear on them. That would seem to me to be the wide grip, which is what I always used. I used to bench 250. These days I just do the machines, although I think freeweights help build strength faster.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Freeweights are much better, as they involve more muscle groups for the same amount of weight.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #4

          Two thoughts I have on this:

          1. Sometimes injuries make controversies like this moot. I don’t dare widen my grip after the rotator tear.

          2. I have long wondered about the quality and quantity of empirical evidence behind all the claims you hear about fitness.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            I think those claims really only matter if you are bodybuilding or an athlete. For your average guy just trying to stay in some semblance of shape it's pretty unimportant.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • kluursK Online
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              kluurs
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              I've been lifting for over 50 years - always a wider grip. - less risk of joint injury - paricularly at this point in my life. At one point, my max benchpress was 315 - which was decent given that at the time I weighed 145.

              At a certain age, one needs to back off a bit - and I'm long past it, I no longer lift for a maximum single lift. I don't attempt any weight that I don't think I can lift a set of 10. For most of my life, I was using free weights - but my ortho asked me what the heck I'd done to damage the thumb joints in my hands. Arthritis and the bench lifts caused some serious damage. As a result, i no longer use free weights. I have a levergym - which while using free weights - allows me to not put as much pressure on the joints in the thumb. While I used to work up to sets at 225, my levergym has me working at higher weights with less adverse impact.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                Nice rig.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  The last time I lifted any weights I think Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister. I keep meaning to get around to it.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #9

                    I was in line waiting for the gym to open at 6:58 this morning.

                    A short line, mind you.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      Wide vs. Close

                      Screenshot 2024-01-13 at 6.48.46 PM.png

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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