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The Curious Case of Claudine Gay

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #67

    The latter.

    Though they (the trio) certainly are being scapegoated for university policies with broad support throughout the administration and trustees.

    But that’s one of the jobs of a leader. So in that sense it isn’t really unfair. Comes with the territory and the large salary.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      LuFins Dad
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      #68

      Okay, but would you also agree that they could have been and should have been better prepared for their testimony? Beyond that, do you also agree that these school administrations have not done an adequate job in addressing these protests and incidents of violence and physical intimidation on campus?

      The Brad

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        Horace
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        #69

        I wonder what the lawyers who gave them their talking points, were trying to avoid.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Copper
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          #70

          Yes, all 3 acted like guilty children.

          They should have defended their policy, it is probably legal and certainly has lots support among their fellow loons.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            I wonder what the lawyers who gave them their talking points, were trying to avoid.

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            jon-nyc
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            #71

            @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

            I wonder what the lawyers who gave them their talking points, were trying to avoid.

            Penalties under the title VI investigations that were already underway by the DoJ, and all the lawsuits from Jewish students that would follow.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Okay, but would you also agree that they could have been and should have been better prepared for their testimony? Beyond that, do you also agree that these school administrations have not done an adequate job in addressing these protests and incidents of violence and physical intimidation on campus?

              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #72

              @LuFins-Dad said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

              Okay, but would you also agree that they could have been and should have been better prepared for their testimony?

              Yes, as one wag put it, WilmerHale might have told them to say “it depends” but they didn’t tell them to smirk.

              Beyond that, do you also agree that these school administrations have not done an adequate job in addressing these protests and incidents of violence and physical intimidation on campus?

              I doubt they have, but in fairness it’s hard to say, we see videos of the incidents but there’s little reporting on any aftermath.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
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                #73

                Drip…drip…drip…

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #74

                  For a sense of perspective, just remember what Summers, Harvard's previous president, resignation was caused by.

                  Also remember, and contrast his scholarly publications.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    His appearance doesn't have the same scholarly qualification.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #76

                      One of Gay’s plagiarized authors speaks out…

                      The Brad

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                        Horace
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                        #77

                        That’s a pleasant surprise.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          One of Gay’s plagiarized authors speaks out…

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                          Copper
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                          #78

                          @LuFins-Dad said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                          One of Gay’s plagiarized authors speaks out…

                          Unfortunately Dr. Swain probably only represents about 98% of the country.

                          It is time to start ignoring that other 2%.

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                            xenon
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                            #79

                            Apparently Harvard said they found more "examples of duplicative language without appropriate attribution.”

                            Lucky for her they didn't find any plagiarism.

                            Harvard seems to be on a speedrun to burn down centuries of accumulated prestige.

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                              It's the culmination of recruiting only the best and brightest.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                xenon
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                                #81

                                What I imagine her resignation will look like:

                                In all the decisions I have made in my public life, I have always tried to do what was best for the NationHarvard. Throughout the long and difficult period of WatergateHamasgate, I have felt it was my duty to persevere, to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which you electedhired me.

                                In the past few days, however, it has become evident to me that I no longer have a strong enough political base in the CongressHarvard Corporation to justify continuing that effort. As long as there was such a base, I felt strongly that it was necessary to see the constitutionaleducational process through to its conclusion, that to do otherwise would be unfaithful to the spirit of that deliberately difficult process and a dangerously destabilizing precedent for the future.

                                But with the disappearance of that base, I now believe that the constitutionaleducational purpose has been served, and there is no longer a need for the process to be prolonged.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #82

                                  POTD

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    Solid.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      George K
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                                      Swain vs Gay

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          There's a documentary on YouTube about the allegations against Fryer. They are total garbage.

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                                          #86

                                          @Horace said in The Curious Case of Claudine Gay:

                                          Fryer

                                          Personal life

                                          Fryer is married to Franziska Michor, a professor of biology at Harvard. They met in 2006, as members of the Harvard Society of Fellows. He "...courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer..."[35] He has performed stand-up comedy at The Elbow Room, in West Hartford, Connecticut, inside of their basement comedy club "Stand-Up Underground."

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_G._Fryer_Jr.

                                          He courted her by betting a dinner date on whether he could find evidence that smoking reduces cancer; to her dismay, he sent her a report from the tobacco lobby.

                                          https://www.ft.com/content/89b97964-b88a-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb

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