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RIP Henry Kissinger

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  • CopperC Offline
    CopperC Offline
    Copper
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    #2

    There was good and bad in that man.

    He was very bright.

    RIP Mr. Kissinger

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #3

      I honestly thought he had passed quite some time ago. He has done a remarkable job staying out of the public eye over the past 30 years.

      The Brad

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
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        #4

        No question that Kissinger understood the pre Gorbachev USSR. The Russia of the post Soviet era not so much. Putin not at all.

        Elbows up!

        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
        • RenaudaR Renauda

          No question that Kissinger understood the pre Gorbachev USSR. The Russia of the post Soviet era not so much. Putin not at all.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #5

          @Renauda said in RIP Henry Kissinger:

          No question that Kissinger understood the pre Gorbachev USSR. The Russia of the post Soviet era not so much. Putin not at all.

          Care to elaborate?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #6

            For 12 years I’ve wondered if Hitch wrote an obit of the man to be embargoed until his death.

            I guess I’ll find out in the next couple of days.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • George KG George K

              @Renauda said in RIP Henry Kissinger:

              No question that Kissinger understood the pre Gorbachev USSR. The Russia of the post Soviet era not so much. Putin not at all.

              Care to elaborate?

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #7

              @George-K

              Care to elaborate?

              Kissinger was a diplomat of the Cold War and the George F. Kennan school of Containment. That school is now referred to as the Realist School and along with the late Dr. Kissinger one of its most prominent champions is John Mearsheimer. Kissinger and Mearsheimer have been highly critical of NATO expansion into Eastern Europe and the Baltic and have essentially argued for appeasement over Putin’s claim to Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Not because Putin has nuclear weapons but rather because they argue NATO and the US represent a threat to Russian security thus crippling efforts for Russia to evolve its democratic institutions.

              Basically, it’s our fault that Putin behaves badly. I cannot subscribe to such an assessment simply because the facts do not support that as a cause for Putin’s actions domestically or internationally.

              Kissinger’s best before date in my opinion was sometime during Reagan’s first term prior to George Schultz’s appointment as Sec’ty of State

              Elbows up!

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              • RainmanR Offline
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                Rainman
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                #8

                Renauda, I think you are the real James Bond.
                You have an incredible knowledge and background. Thanks as always for your summations.
                I don't suppose you drive a Jag. . .

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                • RainmanR Rainman

                  Renauda, I think you are the real James Bond.
                  You have an incredible knowledge and background. Thanks as always for your summations.
                  I don't suppose you drive a Jag. . .

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #9

                  @Rainman said in RIP Henry Kissinger:

                  You have an incredible knowledge and background. Thanks as always for your summations.

                  I was going to say something similar. Thanks for your response, @Renauda . In my dotage, I regret not having these insights.

                  Renauda, I think you are the real James Bond.

                  I think he speaks Russian better than Bond.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • RainmanR Offline
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                    Rainman
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    Man, can you imagine the babes that must hang around Renauda, keeping him warm way up there in the North, him and his Jag and the beautiful babes with the deep Russian accents?

                    Oh wait, Renauda's married.
                    Oh, Nevermind.
                    Scene change:
                    Renauda!, take out the trash, wash the DeSoto, mow the lawn, feed the dog.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      Just going through Kissinger's bio. Did not know he had a bronze star...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #12

                        https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/henry-kissinger-war-criminal-dead-1234804748/

                        Screenshot 2023-12-02 at 6.57.29 AM.png

                        Some mass murderers, apparently, met the approval of Rolling Stone.

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                        • RainmanR Rainman

                          Renauda, I think you are the real James Bond.
                          You have an incredible knowledge and background. Thanks as always for your summations.
                          I don't suppose you drive a Jag. . .

                          RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @Rainman

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                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG George K

                            https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/henry-kissinger-war-criminal-dead-1234804748/

                            Screenshot 2023-12-02 at 6.57.29 AM.png

                            Some mass murderers, apparently, met the approval of Rolling Stone.

                            image.jpeg

                            CopperC Offline
                            CopperC Offline
                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            @George-K said in RIP Henry Kissinger:

                            Some mass murderers, apparently, met the approval of Rolling Stone.

                            https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/MC1/MC1-Part1Section5.pdf

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