I would not play.
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Nabors is the favorite to win the award for best college wide receiver. He is a first round NFL talent.
I would not play in a bowl game.
https://lsutigerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/27/lsu-football-brian-kelly-potential-bowl-opt-outs/
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@jon-nyc said in I would not play.:
Are the odds of getting injured in a bowl game any higher than any other game?
No, but the timing vs the reward is a risk. I disagree with the idea of skipping bowl games, but an injury that occurs in September/October is likely to be healed before spring OTAs and training camp. An injury in January? Less so. Meaning you are more likely to be passed up in the first round. The difference in contract value between a first and second round pick is substantial.
Still, if I was a personnel guy, I would take note of players that abandoned their team and commitments out of fear. That’s not a player that I would really want on a team.
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Most of these kids don't come from money. The difference between a mid-first rounder and a mid second-rounder is about $10M over the life of their rookie contract. And, first round contracts are guaranteed.
This kid is a first rounder. His QB might be the Heisman winner, and I think he'll go Top Ten. Daniels is not playing in a bowl.
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Most of these kids don't come from money. The difference between a mid-first rounder and a mid second-rounder is about $10M over the life of their rookie contract. And, first round contracts are guaranteed.
This kid is a first rounder. His QB might be the Heisman winner, and I think he'll go Top Ten. Daniels is not playing in a bowl.
@Jolly said in I would not play.:
Most of these kids don't come from money. The difference between a mid-first rounder and a mid second-rounder is about $10M over the life of their rookie contract. And, first round contracts are guaranteed.
This kid is a first rounder. His QB might be the Heisman winner, and I think he'll go Top Ten. Daniels is not playing in a bowl.
Nabors made $720K on his NIL deal. I think that takes care of the most immediate needs for the family.
While the 1st round contract is initially worth more per year, don’t forget that the 2nd round pick is eligible for performance escalators that the 1st rounder isn’t and will close a lot of that gap. Most importantly will hit free agency a year earlier. For a successful player, that will pay a lot more than the 5th year option.
Either way, it’s irrelevant. A highly paid athlete is choosing to abandon his team before the end of the season. So if I am a personnel guy, my question is how this guy responds when it’s the end of his contract year, the team is close to being eliminated from playoff contention, is this guy going to go out there and battle, or is he going to take it cautiously so he can hit the FA payday? Actually, I don’t need to question it, the guy has already answered that question…
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@Jolly said in I would not play.:
Most of these kids don't come from money. The difference between a mid-first rounder and a mid second-rounder is about $10M over the life of their rookie contract. And, first round contracts are guaranteed.
This kid is a first rounder. His QB might be the Heisman winner, and I think he'll go Top Ten. Daniels is not playing in a bowl.
Nabors made $720K on his NIL deal. I think that takes care of the most immediate needs for the family.
While the 1st round contract is initially worth more per year, don’t forget that the 2nd round pick is eligible for performance escalators that the 1st rounder isn’t and will close a lot of that gap. Most importantly will hit free agency a year earlier. For a successful player, that will pay a lot more than the 5th year option.
Either way, it’s irrelevant. A highly paid athlete is choosing to abandon his team before the end of the season. So if I am a personnel guy, my question is how this guy responds when it’s the end of his contract year, the team is close to being eliminated from playoff contention, is this guy going to go out there and battle, or is he going to take it cautiously so he can hit the FA payday? Actually, I don’t need to question it, the guy has already answered that question…
@LuFins-Dad said in I would not play.:
Either way, it’s irrelevant. A highly paid athlete is choosing to abandon his team before the end of the season. So if I am a personnel guy, my question is how this guy responds when it’s the end of his contract year, the team is close to being eliminated from playoff contention, is this guy going to go out there and battle, or is he going to take it cautiously so he can hit the FA payday? Actually, I don’t need to question it, the guy has already answered that question…
On the other hand, why should more be expected of a player than a coach? Kelly himself left Cincinnati for Notre Dame right before the Bearcats went to a bowl game. Happens all the time. Didn't even have the excuse of potential injury.
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@LuFins-Dad said in I would not play.:
Either way, it’s irrelevant. A highly paid athlete is choosing to abandon his team before the end of the season. So if I am a personnel guy, my question is how this guy responds when it’s the end of his contract year, the team is close to being eliminated from playoff contention, is this guy going to go out there and battle, or is he going to take it cautiously so he can hit the FA payday? Actually, I don’t need to question it, the guy has already answered that question…
On the other hand, why should more be expected of a player than a coach? Kelly himself left Cincinnati for Notre Dame right before the Bearcats went to a bowl game. Happens all the time. Didn't even have the excuse of potential injury.
@Mik said in I would not play.:
@LuFins-Dad said in I would not play.:
Either way, it’s irrelevant. A highly paid athlete is choosing to abandon his team before the end of the season. So if I am a personnel guy, my question is how this guy responds when it’s the end of his contract year, the team is close to being eliminated from playoff contention, is this guy going to go out there and battle, or is he going to take it cautiously so he can hit the FA payday? Actually, I don’t need to question it, the guy has already answered that question…
On the other hand, why should more be expected of a player than a coach? Kelly himself left Cincinnati for Notre Dame right before the Bearcats went to a bowl game. Happens all the time. Didn't even have the excuse of potential injury.
Who said Kelly wasn’t a dick, and I didn’t like him leaving the way he did?
But, once you get past the emotion and disappointment, there are actually quite a few reasons why it’s different:
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The job’s not there if he waits till after the Bowl Game. The weeks between the last regular game of the season and the bowl game are the primary recruiting season. Programs replacing coaches need the new guy on the road as soon as possible visiting recruits. Even if coaches aren’t leaving, they normally have a meeting with the coordinators to go over the game plan and practice schedule for the bowl game, then leave it in their hands while the HC goes a courtin’.
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If he agrees to the new job but only after the bowl game, he screws both programs. The new job is late to recruiting and the old program is weeks behind in finding his replacement hire AND recruiting.
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if he agrees to the job, informs the old program immediately but agrees to stay on until after the bowl game, it creates all kinds of potential ethical issues, especially with the recruiting… Is he recruiting for Cincinnati or ND?
No, as ugly as it seems, it really is the best choice the way it happened. It sucks when you are a fan of that program. You hate to see that coach leave AND you at least would like to see them stick through the bowl game. But there’s not a whole lot of choice, especially when competing with a program like ND.
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So in other words it’s good for the coach. This kids perception is it’s good for him. Same same.
@Mik said in I would not play.:
So in other words it’s good for the coach. This kids perception is it’s good for him. Same same.
Not saying the kid can’t do it. Just saying that if I was a Personnel guy in the league, that would be a significant checkmark against the kid.
You’ve got the #10 pick in the draft, you have 3 kids that you have ranked pretty equivalently at the spot. 2 of the kids skipped their meaningless bowl game to avoid a potential injury. The 3rd kid didn’t, and participated fully… I’m taking the kid that didn’t live in his fear and fully embraced the opportunity for his team.
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And no. It’s not the same. As already noted, it’s better for the program for the coach to step aside before the bowl game. It’s not better for the program for their QB or WR to step aside.
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In 12 games, 1546 yards, 15 TDs. Nabers can play.
LSU will not be in the college football playoff. The bowl game will be for bragging rights. If it was a playoff game, I'm sure he would play.
Blow out a knee or break an ankle for Old War Skool in a meaningless game? Not if you are a first round talent. It's a business decision.
And at this level, it ain't sis-boom-ah, it's a business. Now, if you're a kid that could use some more good tape, you play in the bowl game. Might even go to the Senior Bowl or something similar.
But just as young athletes pick their school, enter the transfer portal or sign their NIL deals, it's all business decisions.
