Seattle City Councilwoman
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wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 22:25 last edited by
@Larry said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
Let's see... you're leaning libertarian, yet you would vote for Bernie.......
That's not at all what he said:
I repeatedly said I would pull the libertarian lever back when it looked like Bernie was going to win the primary
Also, I remember Jon being critical of the Wall Street protestors back in the day when drum circles were a thing.
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wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 22:35 last edited by
Ok. I guess I misunderstood....
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wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 22:40 last edited by xenon 7 Aug 2020, 22:45
The problem with grievance-based discourse (from both parties) is that it makes revolutionary ideas sound appealing.
This country is great. Like truly. Other countries would love to have the problems we have (for the most part). While we need more than incrementalism in a few areas (healthcare costs, inequality, automation) - but we don't need revolutionary change.
But that sort of constructive conversation isn't happening anywhere.
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The problem with grievance-based discourse (from both parties) is that it makes revolutionary ideas sound appealing.
This country is great. Like truly. Other countries would love to have the problems we have (for the most part). While we need more than incrementalism in a few areas (healthcare costs, inequality, automation) - but we don't need revolutionary change.
But that sort of constructive conversation isn't happening anywhere.
wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 22:57 last edited by Copper 7 Aug 2020, 22:57@xenon said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
inequality
There is no inequality where it matters - under the law and opportunity.
None.
Dead, solid exactly equal
And has been for a long time
If you want equality of outcome, try Russia or North Korea, outcomes are equal for all
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wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 23:02 last edited by
Great comments to read in response to the tweet which began this thread.
Hey Ax, 'ol buddy! Did you read the comments or responses? What did you think? Do you think there were sufficient comments expressing all viewpoints? What percentage did you agree with?
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The problem with grievance-based discourse (from both parties) is that it makes revolutionary ideas sound appealing.
This country is great. Like truly. Other countries would love to have the problems we have (for the most part). While we need more than incrementalism in a few areas (healthcare costs, inequality, automation) - but we don't need revolutionary change.
But that sort of constructive conversation isn't happening anywhere.
wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 23:06 last edited by@xenon said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
The problem with grievance-based discourse (from both parties) is that it makes revolutionary ideas sound appealing.
Which grievance based discourse do you see from the right?
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wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 23:07 last edited by
Hang around in this forum for ten minutes.
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@xenon said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
The problem with grievance-based discourse (from both parties) is that it makes revolutionary ideas sound appealing.
Which grievance based discourse do you see from the right?
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@xenon said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
inequality
There is no inequality where it matters - under the law and opportunity.
None.
Dead, solid exactly equal
And has been for a long time
If you want equality of outcome, try Russia or North Korea, outcomes are equal for all
wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 23:42 last edited by xenon 7 Aug 2020, 23:44@Copper naw, there are problems. Running a small biz is harder. Business formation is down.
It’s easier for large companies to capture regulators. There are more parts of the economy becoming “winner takes all”
It’s harder to hold down a blue collar job.
Things are changing - and this creates resentment which in turn creates political instability.
But again - none of the things above require you to tear the system down to tackle.
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The problem with grievance-based discourse (from both parties) is that it makes revolutionary ideas sound appealing.
This country is great. Like truly. Other countries would love to have the problems we have (for the most part). While we need more than incrementalism in a few areas (healthcare costs, inequality, automation) - but we don't need revolutionary change.
But that sort of constructive conversation isn't happening anywhere.
wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 01:02 last edited by@xenon said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
This country is great. Like truly. Other countries would love to have the problems we have (for the most part). While we need more than incrementalism in a few areas (healthcare costs, inequality, automation) - but we don't need revolutionary change.
Very true Xenon!! Wise words indeed.
It is hard to understand what you have (and take for granted) when you have never been without.
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wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 01:57 last edited by
I spent enough time in the UK to know that this is heaven on earth.
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@Copper naw, there are problems. Running a small biz is harder. Business formation is down.
It’s easier for large companies to capture regulators. There are more parts of the economy becoming “winner takes all”
It’s harder to hold down a blue collar job.
Things are changing - and this creates resentment which in turn creates political instability.
But again - none of the things above require you to tear the system down to tackle.
wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 02:06 last edited by@xenon said in Seattle City Councilwoman:
@Copper naw, there are problems. Running a small biz is harder. Business formation is down.
It’s easier for large companies to capture regulators. There are more parts of the economy becoming “winner takes all”
It’s harder to hold down a blue collar job.
Things are changing - and this creates resentment which in turn creates political instability.
But again - none of the things above require you to tear the system down to tackle.
None of that is even remotely true.
In fact in every case you mention the law requires equality to be enforced, and it is.
The largest corporations in this country are afraid of nothing more than being accused of racism against minorities.
And you don't even have to scare them anymore, they are true believers.