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F-22 vs. FA-50

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    The best vs. the cheap.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/think-f-22-sky’s-top-dog-filipino-fa-50-proved-you-wrong-207162

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Well, from reading that, I gather in this engagement they disabled all the features that make the F-22 a real combat aircraft.

      As the article said, "one wing tied behind its back."

      Maneuverable? Shut up - we'll put some drop tanks on it to make it a slug.

      And, we'll make it blind so it's only eyeballs.

      And, we'll put it in front of OTHER fighters.

      Nice exercise, but what real-world lessons does it give? If you cripple a Raptor, it's just another plane.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        True.

        But follow the link for the FA-50. A lot of capability for a cheap (relatively) combat aircraft.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          True.

          But follow the link for the FA-50. A lot of capability for a cheap (relatively) combat aircraft.

          George KG Offline
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          @Jolly said in F-22 vs. FA-50:

          But follow the link for the FA-50. A lot of capability for a cheap (relatively) combat aircraft.

          Yeah, you've been evangelizing cheap combat aircraft for years. Indeed, the FA-50 seems very capable. But, for a real test, put it up against its peer-aircraft.

          Or, in a real-world situation, when the planes are not crippled, the ROE are not restrictive, when weapons systems are all functioning, how long would a flight of cheap aircraft hold up against half a dozen Raptors?

          I'm not denying the role of cheap fighter and CAS support aircraft <cough> Hawg <cough>. THey're essential. My only comment is that this is not a real-world test. But, people smarter than I am designed the games, so I'll shut up.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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