A Shaky Future?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in A Shaky Future?:
Fox is no longer competing with CNN for your attention. It's competing against CNN, Instagram, Etsy, YouTube, Netflix, and God knows what else. The only way to win with that kind of intense competition is to play to your emotions and make you read their bullshit. Tucker Carlson would have no career if he wasn't abrasive.
Aqua makes interesting points. I wish I (we) knew more about exactly what he does, and why he seems to be on an inside track of what goes on in print news and online.
The reason for my selective quote of what Aqua said, is that it reminded me of observations made by the two guys on ADV China. They point out that EVERYTHING is under the auspices of the CCP, and the mainland Chinese know it. Yet, they believe what they are told, even though the people know it might not be true.
So, even if you (mainland Chinese) know the news is not true or factual, they do believe that it's true and factual. Hard to figure, but I guess that's part of human nature: if someone says something, believe it's true, even if you know it's propaganda.
Of course we're also dealing with that post-modernist bullshit of "speak your truth" because, well, my feelings are just as right as that science nonsense, if not more so.
It’s tough to acknowledge Aqua’s point that social media has become a primary news source for many (most?) people. Social media by definition is POV and not unbiased news. I miss those days but I am slowly coming around to accept the reality and the MSM existential threat. I do think that CNN for example acts as social media and is very close to flat out admitting it outloud.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in A Shaky Future?:
Fox is no longer competing with CNN for your attention. It's competing against CNN, Instagram, Etsy, YouTube, Netflix, and God knows what else. The only way to win with that kind of intense competition is to play to your emotions and make you read their bullshit. Tucker Carlson would have no career if he wasn't abrasive.
Aqua makes interesting points. I wish I (we) knew more about exactly what he does, and why he seems to be on an inside track of what goes on in print news and online.
The reason for my selective quote of what Aqua said, is that it reminded me of observations made by the two guys on ADV China. They point out that EVERYTHING is under the auspices of the CCP, and the mainland Chinese know it. Yet, they believe what they are told, even though the people know it might not be true.
So, even if you (mainland Chinese) know the news is not true or factual, they do believe that it's true and factual. Hard to figure, but I guess that's part of human nature: if someone says something, believe it's true, even if you know it's propaganda.
Of course we're also dealing with that post-modernist bullshit of "speak your truth" because, well, my feelings are just as right as that science nonsense, if not more so.
@Rainman said in A Shaky Future?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in A Shaky Future?:
Aqua makes interesting points. I wish I (we) knew more about exactly what he does, and why he seems to be on an inside track of what goes on in print news and online.
I've been switching between working as a journalist and a copywriter for about 13 years, and I've worked for a large handful of magazines and websites. Some extremely small, some get quoted here sometimes. My current day job is a very silly place that has nothing to do with this, or anything else, really, so I still freelance because I like it.
My opinions about the above just come from what I know from colleagues and my own biased and limited experience. I've some relatively boring stories I rather tell in person, but basically I hate the downward spiral our reporting sources are in now, and I'm not sure anyone here knows more first-hand about how media bias works than I do. But that's not the only thing there is to contend with if we're to fix the problem. My buddy Matt and I spent many, many a lunchbreak trying to figure it out from a revenue perspective. Never got very far.
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Imagine if this thread in which we are participating, was a correspondence between Jefferson and Adams. Our back and forth perspectives take place in a matter of hours. In their day, the same took place, but would take months. Yeah, I know, "duh."
But I don't think anyone has come close to understanding the bad, in the good and bad of instant communication. Adams or Jefferson would have thought about something for days, pondered, let it sit, and then write their thoughts.
In today's world, it's immediate. I can't help but think THAT is a central part of all problems and issues, and that maybe historians years from now will point to this as the "novel" catalyst which caused a civil war to occur in the 2020's.
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is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Education is extremely important.
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is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Well, that and the fact that they were fucking geniuses. Joseph Plum Martin was far more eloquent than your average 'Murrican on the Twitters, but our founders were still on another level entirely. Gotta hand it to 'em.
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is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Nope. Sorry dude, some of us just have it, some don't. I'd call it a natural gift, like my incredible beauty and awesome strength.
Keep trying, Horace.
Or, ask Ax for help.Ax, are you busy, budd??
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Aqua, thanks for sharing your profession. You're right there in amongst the wars, aren't you?
Journalism was what I was born to do. I turned away from it at a young age, and it remains to this day my greatest regret.
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Nope. Sorry dude, some of us just have it, some don't. I'd call it a natural gift, like my incredible beauty and awesome strength.
Keep trying, Horace.
Or, ask Ax for help.Ax, are you busy, budd??
@Rainman said in A Shaky Future?:
@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Nope. Sorry dude, some of us just have it, some don't. I'd call it a natural gift, like my incredible beauty and awesome strength.
Keep trying, Horace.
I am also good looking and strong. Where we differ is that I am not fat.
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@Rainman said in A Shaky Future?:
@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Nope. Sorry dude, some of us just have it, some don't. I'd call it a natural gift, like my incredible beauty and awesome strength.
Keep trying, Horace.
I am also good looking and strong. Where we differ is that I am not fat.
@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
@Rainman said in A Shaky Future?:
@Horace said in A Shaky Future?:
is that why they all seem to have written so beautifully? Because whenever they did write, it was a dissertation they'd been mulling over for days?
Nope. Sorry dude, some of us just have it, some don't. I'd call it a natural gift, like my incredible beauty and awesome strength.
Keep trying, Horace.
I am also good looking and strong. Where we differ is that I am not fat.
Well, I wear fat proudly. Stand tall, hang low.
It took me a lifetime, so why be modest.
I'm hungry. Think I'll go find a Mik thread and look at good things to eat. -
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Aqua, thanks for sharing your profession. You're right there in amongst the wars, aren't you?
Journalism was what I was born to do. I turned away from it at a young age, and it remains to this day my greatest regret.
@Catseye3 said in A Shaky Future?:
Aqua, thanks for sharing your profession. You'll right there in amongst the wars, aren't you?
Eh, not right now I'm not. I had this great idea to go for something closer to a living wage and as a result, I've been in professional limbo for a bit lately. Which is okay. There's been a lot of other stuff going on, and I know now that I have to at least give a shit a little bit about how I spend my time. As I've gotten older I've unfortunately not become more flexible with nonsense. Makes jobs and professional relationships hard.
Journalism was what I was born to do. I turned away from it at a young age, and it remains to this day my greatest regret.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Watching its collapse has been interesting. By dumb luck alone I've made it past six massive layoffs and three company turnovers in about the past decade. One day I stopped to speak with my layout person about my upcoming issue and her stuff was gone. Same thing happened to my marketing person weeks later. Then my co-worker. I spent about six months waiting for my boss to come have a chat with me. But it never came, and I helped him find and hire my replacement before I left to get my master's. They tanked the whole damn publication and others like it just three months later. All that was prior to '08. Lots of similar shit since then.
It's not really a profession anymore, most places. (Like I said I don't know much about broadcast news.) The vast majority of the legwork is done by contractors and freelancers for peanuts. You've missed a long, dramatic collapse. Be glad you have!
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@Catseye3 said in A Shaky Future?:
Aqua, thanks for sharing your profession. You'll right there in amongst the wars, aren't you?
Eh, not right now I'm not. I had this great idea to go for something closer to a living wage and as a result, I've been in professional limbo for a bit lately. Which is okay. There's been a lot of other stuff going on, and I know now that I have to at least give a shit a little bit about how I spend my time. As I've gotten older I've unfortunately not become more flexible with nonsense. Makes jobs and professional relationships hard.
Journalism was what I was born to do. I turned away from it at a young age, and it remains to this day my greatest regret.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself. Watching its collapse has been interesting. By dumb luck alone I've made it past six massive layoffs and three company turnovers in about the past decade. One day I stopped to speak with my layout person about my upcoming issue and her stuff was gone. Same thing happened to my marketing person weeks later. Then my co-worker. I spent about six months waiting for my boss to come have a chat with me. But it never came, and I helped him find and hire my replacement before I left to get my master's. They tanked the whole damn publication and others like it just three months later. All that was prior to '08. Lots of similar shit since then.
It's not really a profession anymore, most places. (Like I said I don't know much about broadcast news.) The vast majority of the legwork is done by contractors and freelancers for peanuts. You've missed a long, dramatic collapse. Be glad you have!
@Aqua-Letifer said in A Shaky Future?:
You've missed a long, dramatic collapse. Be glad you have!
Yeah, I've had that thought over the years: How I would have done in the new, late-age whatever-it-is that passes for journalism. I think it wouldn't have much resembled the Bogart/Hepburn movies that so captured my very young imagination. I could see myself on the phone yelling, Get me rewrite!
Heh!
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Reality is less glamorous, more... I dunno, dumb, and people dress much more shabbily.
That last might be just me, but I don't think so.
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Reality is less glamorous, more... I dunno, dumb, and people dress much more shabbily.
That last might be just me, but I don't think so.
@Aqua-Letifer said in A Shaky Future?:
. . . and people dress much more shabbily. That last might be just me, but I don't think so.
Nah. Bogie would never have rocked the flannel pants.
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Look, that picture shows the wrong way to drink from your enemies' skulls.
It should be obvious to even the village idiots that you cannot drink from the lower eyes/nose/mouth part of the skull -- liquid will just flow out of the eyes/nose/mouth holes so you cannot fill that part of the skull to drink from to begin with.
Use the upper, above the eye holes, part of the skull. -
Look, that picture shows the wrong way to drink from your enemies' skulls.
It should be obvious to even the village idiots that you cannot drink from the lower eyes/nose/mouth part of the skull -- liquid will just flow out of the eyes/nose/mouth holes so you cannot fill that part of the skull to drink from to begin with.
Use the upper, above the eye holes, part of the skull.@Axtremus correct but not exactly
The mouth and nose and eyes don’t open directly into the skull. But in the base of the skull are numerous foramina (small holes) to allow passage of nerves and blood vessels in and out. So yes it would leak but not through a large orbit or open mouth.
