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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    But a used Clavinova or Roland HP over an FP30.

    Number 1 issue with inexpensive digitals is stand instability. When you are hitting the keys of the instrument to play mf (that’s mezzo forte), you are hitting with more force than you think, and that motion is not a straight 90 degrees. There is a fair amount of side to side. After a few months of playing, those FP30 stands will give you a lot of sway. When that starts happening, you get tension and instability in other parts of even the electronic components. Get something that has a full panel and feet that extend out a bit. Preferably, something that also has front legs coming down from keybed to the feet for even more solid construction.

    $700 is too much money to spend on something you won’t like.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

    But a used Clavinova or Roland HP over an FP30.

    Number 1 issue with inexpensive digitals is stand instability. When you are hitting the keys of the instrument to play mf (that’s mezzo forte), you are hitting with more force than you think, and that motion is not a straight 90 degrees. There is a fair amount of side to side. After a few months of playing, those FP30 stands will give you a lot of sway. When that starts happening, you get tension and instability in other parts of even the electronic components. Get something that has a full panel and feet that extend out a bit. Preferably, something that also has front legs coming down from keybed to the feet for even more solid construction.

    $700 is too much money to spend on something you won’t like.

    Thanks LD. I had that issue with my yamaha p-80, but after I got the cabinet style stand, it was fine. I think the stand in the link should be ok.

    A close by guitar center sells these Rolands, which are actually too cheap for the acoustic shop that carries Rolands. They only carry the more expensive models. Good thing for me, 30 minutes less driving.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1392063511653093/?ref=search

      Message them and tell them you can buy a CLP735 new for $2399 and offer them $1,000

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

      https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1392063511653093/?ref=search

      Message them and tell them you can buy a CLP735 new for $2399 and offer them $1,000

      That's a good idea. I should watch the used market. I'm in no hurry.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Having played the 635, I think you'd like it a whole lot more.

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          Rainman
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          I do wonder if the wars between manufacturers are as intense as they appeared to be years ago. I am also trying to convince myself to buy a digital, as I've migrated away from my grand to my Arturia MKII which was for DAW, but now I use it daily for piano.
          Unlike some, I hate going to any piano store to play the various instruments. Guitar World? I may be too much of a snob (tongue in cheek). Anyway, don't want to hijack this thread, but I do encourage the conversation. There may be a lot of people that drop in for the hands-on advice this forum provides.

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          • RainmanR Rainman

            I do wonder if the wars between manufacturers are as intense as they appeared to be years ago. I am also trying to convince myself to buy a digital, as I've migrated away from my grand to my Arturia MKII which was for DAW, but now I use it daily for piano.
            Unlike some, I hate going to any piano store to play the various instruments. Guitar World? I may be too much of a snob (tongue in cheek). Anyway, don't want to hijack this thread, but I do encourage the conversation. There may be a lot of people that drop in for the hands-on advice this forum provides.

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            @Rainman said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

            There may be a lot of people that drop in for the hands-on advice this forum provides.

            People come here mostly to educate themselves about the various ways in which Democrats are dumb, but I hope piano chat can also provide some educational value.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Horace, I could have sworn you said people come here because you are so incredibly handsome and slovenly beautifulyesque. I'd ask the ladies if that's true, but. . .

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              • RainmanR Rainman

                Horace, I could have sworn you said people come here because you are so incredibly handsome and slovenly beautifulyesque. I'd ask the ladies if that's true, but. . .

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                @Rainman said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                Horace, I could have sworn you said people come here because you are so incredibly handsome and slovenly beautifulyesque. I'd ask the ladies if that's true, but. . .

                They are so inFATuated with me.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Today I learned that the space between the black keys in the groups of 2 is slightly more than the space between the keys in the groups of 3.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Interesting

                    https://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2757797/black-keys-not-equally-distant-from-neighboring-white-keys.html#:~:text=Looking more at that the,one of three black keys.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Today I learned that the space between the black keys in the groups of 2 is slightly more than the space between the keys in the groups of 3.

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                      @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                      Today I learned that the space between the black keys in the groups of 2 is slightly more than the space between the keys in the groups of 3.

                      Racist.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        When you have 2 blacks together it’s the suburbs. When 3 or more together it’s likely the projects and much smaller spaces

                        The Brad

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                          Saw this beautiful RX2 at the Kawai gallery. Custom made oak for a church, who had to back out of the deal at the last second. Too bad it's not a digital, and 35k more than the budget allows.

                          Edit: GX2, not RX2.

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                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Saw this beautiful RX2 at the Kawai gallery. Custom made oak for a church, who had to back out of the deal at the last second. Too bad it's not a digital, and 35k more than the budget allows.

                            Edit: GX2, not RX2.

                            88ECD838-B52D-4F8F-BFA5-25A2BCCA1A78.jpeg

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                            @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                            Saw this beautiful RX2 at the Kawai gallery. Custom made oak for a church, who had to back out of the deal at the last second. Too bad it's not a digital, and 35k more than the budget allows.

                            88ECD838-B52D-4F8F-BFA5-25A2BCCA1A78.jpeg

                            RX2s haven’t been built for 15 years. The oak models are also custom for the Mormon Church. That’s very odd…

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                              Saw this beautiful RX2 at the Kawai gallery. Custom made oak for a church, who had to back out of the deal at the last second. Too bad it's not a digital, and 35k more than the budget allows.

                              88ECD838-B52D-4F8F-BFA5-25A2BCCA1A78.jpeg

                              RX2s haven’t been built for 15 years. The oak models are also custom for the Mormon Church. That’s very odd…

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                              @Horace said in Thinking of getting a digital piano:

                              Saw this beautiful RX2 at the Kawai gallery. Custom made oak for a church, who had to back out of the deal at the last second. Too bad it's not a digital, and 35k more than the budget allows.

                              88ECD838-B52D-4F8F-BFA5-25A2BCCA1A78.jpeg

                              RX2s haven’t been built for 15 years. The oak models are also custom for the Mormon Church. That’s very odd…

                              She probably said GX2 and I misremembered.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Still, a nice piano.

                                You know, you don't really need both kidneys...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  It sounds great. I had never been much impressed with Kawais before today, but the ones I played had exceptional tones.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    They're nice pianos. Especially in the verticals, I prefer their tone to Yamaha.

                                    All personal preference, though.

                                    I'm also one of the dimwits that liked the old Baldwins...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      I borrowed a piano stencil from the Kawai gallery. How serious is the rule about not putting a piano next to a window? This gets direct sunlight for a couple hours in the morning, but is shaded the majority of the day. Also there's a door to the outside there right behind it. This is the only place in the acoustically advantaged living room. Otherwise it'd go into my office.

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                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Are the windows UV treated? I would also consider purchasing a hydrometer that measures AND RECORDS the temp and humidity and put it on a table smack in the middle and see how much variation you see over the course of the day.

                                        The Brad

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                                          #38

                                          Get an electric awning for outside the window and lower it in the mornings. They’re compact and not very visible when rolled up.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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