Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Tesla

Tesla

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
22 Posts 11 Posters 297 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @doctor-phibes I have thought about this.

    It seems to me that alot of times people make their money based on their "perceived" value to society rather than their actual value, or contribution of value to society.

    For example:

    Job #1: social worker who works with beat up women and helps them get stable, find a self supporting job, etc.

    Salary: probably about USD$30,000 / year

    Job #2 Tik Tok star with 2 MM followers. Does a 30 second video (actually a commercial) about a product they really have no idea about

    Promotion paid by company to influencer: $5000

    Doesn't seem to make sense.

    But in a capitalist society, the market sets the pay structure.

    Aqua LetiferA Offline
    Aqua LetiferA Offline
    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @taiwan_girl said in Tesla:

    @doctor-phibes I have thought about this.

    It seems to me that alot of times people make their money based on their "perceived" value to society rather than their actual value, or contribution of value to society.

    For example:

    Job #1: social worker who works with beat up women and helps them get stable, find a self supporting job, etc.

    Salary: probably about USD$30,000 / year

    Job #2 Tik Tok star with 2 MM followers. Does a 30 second video (actually a commercial) about a product they really have no idea about

    Promotion paid by company to influencer: $5000

    Doesn't seem to make sense.

    But in a capitalist society, the market sets the pay structure.

    Just to clarify here, because I know a little bit about this: that's not usually how it goes down. Most companies, because they're (1) inundated with bureaucracy in which everything must run by Legal, some beancounters, and some freaking committee, and (2) scared shitless of change, completely flub this.

    Most folks who spend more than an hour a week on YouTube know an ad read when they hear one, and at this point are no longer enamored by 1st gen influencers peddling products. Most of us aren't swayed by this bullshit anymore. What we do is listen to people we agree with and find credible, and when they do something we want to do, we pay attention to the tool they used to do that thing. "I need a tent for the PCT. Hey, what did VanLife75 guy say he used for his PCT hike? I watch his shit all the time, he just mentioned this. Ah, cool, I'll start my research there I guess."

    We all know this is actually how it works. Except for the companies! They still push the ad read, because they still think it's 1974 and that today's influencers are their Joe DiMaggio. They'd make an assload more money by giving experts who have a following their shit for free, not paying them, but help them complete a project with their products.

    Some more media-savvy companies are already figuring this out, but it's very few. Most are paying influencers very little because the return is very little, because they're doing it wrong.

    Please love yourself.

    taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @taiwan_girl said in Tesla:

      @doctor-phibes I have thought about this.

      It seems to me that alot of times people make their money based on their "perceived" value to society rather than their actual value, or contribution of value to society.

      For example:

      Job #1: social worker who works with beat up women and helps them get stable, find a self supporting job, etc.

      Salary: probably about USD$30,000 / year

      Job #2 Tik Tok star with 2 MM followers. Does a 30 second video (actually a commercial) about a product they really have no idea about

      Promotion paid by company to influencer: $5000

      Doesn't seem to make sense.

      But in a capitalist society, the market sets the pay structure.

      Just to clarify here, because I know a little bit about this: that's not usually how it goes down. Most companies, because they're (1) inundated with bureaucracy in which everything must run by Legal, some beancounters, and some freaking committee, and (2) scared shitless of change, completely flub this.

      Most folks who spend more than an hour a week on YouTube know an ad read when they hear one, and at this point are no longer enamored by 1st gen influencers peddling products. Most of us aren't swayed by this bullshit anymore. What we do is listen to people we agree with and find credible, and when they do something we want to do, we pay attention to the tool they used to do that thing. "I need a tent for the PCT. Hey, what did VanLife75 guy say he used for his PCT hike? I watch his shit all the time, he just mentioned this. Ah, cool, I'll start my research there I guess."

      We all know this is actually how it works. Except for the companies! They still push the ad read, because they still think it's 1974 and that today's influencers are their Joe DiMaggio. They'd make an assload more money by giving experts who have a following their shit for free, not paying them, but help them complete a project with their products.

      Some more media-savvy companies are already figuring this out, but it's very few. Most are paying influencers very little because the return is very little, because they're doing it wrong.

      taiwan_girlT Offline
      taiwan_girlT Offline
      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @aqua-letifer Interesting. I do not know much about that at all.

      (I am obviously not an influencer! 555)

      Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
        Doctor PhibesD Offline
        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        The benefits of working for a company that isn't publicly traded is extremely undervalued.

        I was only joking

        1 Reply Last reply
        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @aqua-letifer Interesting. I do not know much about that at all.

          (I am obviously not an influencer! 555)

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
          Aqua LetiferA Offline
          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @taiwan_girl said in Tesla:

          @aqua-letifer Interesting. I do not know much about that at all.

          (I am obviously not an influencer! 555)

          Hey, neither am I, in any sense of the word. 😄

          Please love yourself.

          1 Reply Last reply
          • taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/tesla-advertising-campaign/

            Tesla will begin advertising for the first time ever.

            Following a shareholders meeting earlier this year, Musk announced that Tesla would launch an ad campaign for the first time in the company’s 20-year history.

            Until its latest push, Tesla has spent just a fraction of what other major car manufacturers have spent on advertising. Tesla only spent $151,947 on advertising in the United States in 2022, compared to $370 million spent by Ford, $1.1 billion spent by Toyota, and General Motors spending $1.35 billion across its brands.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • markM Offline
              markM Offline
              mark
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              They can advertise all they want. I will probably never see an ad. I will never buy a Tesla because they are fugly, unreliable, lack the proper range, and take too long to charge.

              But mostly because they are fugly.

              1 Reply Last reply
              • X Offline
                X Offline
                xenon
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                I’m glad other people are buying EVs. They’ll get the kinks worked out. I’ll consider buying one when they fixed the stuff that Mark is talking about.

                I just bought an unnecessarily huge ICE vehicle this week.

                1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ Offline
                  jon-nycJ Offline
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  Sweet. What did you get ?

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • MikM Offline
                    MikM Offline
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    Enormous automobiles are your God given right as an American. Whadya get>?

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    • X Offline
                      X Offline
                      xenon
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      Haha - I got a BMW X7. I loved my minivan, but the thing held its value too well. It's almost 3 years old but I got more for it than I spent on it new.

                      Honestly - I felt like I just wanted to cash in on that more than anything.

                      I don't use the car for commutes, so its mostly just a road trip car + errands. Much funner driving this thing in the hills of the pacific northwest vs. the van.

                      Plus we're 99% we're stopping at 3 kids - so the big bench row works just fine for us.

                      AxtremusA CopperC 2 Replies Last reply
                      • X xenon

                        Haha - I got a BMW X7. I loved my minivan, but the thing held its value too well. It's almost 3 years old but I got more for it than I spent on it new.

                        Honestly - I felt like I just wanted to cash in on that more than anything.

                        I don't use the car for commutes, so its mostly just a road trip car + errands. Much funner driving this thing in the hills of the pacific northwest vs. the van.

                        Plus we're 99% we're stopping at 3 kids - so the big bench row works just fine for us.

                        AxtremusA Offline
                        AxtremusA Offline
                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @xenon said in Tesla:

                        Plus we're 99% we're stopping at 3 kids - so the big bench row works just fine for us.

                        Maybe you want to take the grandparents along for certain events (kids' games/performances/award ceremonies/graduations, etc). Maybe want to haul the kids whole debate team or soccer team or scout troop?

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        • X Offline
                          X Offline
                          xenon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          Well that was the exact justification for getting a 3 row SUV vs 2 row. We don't need the seats day to day and keep them down, but can add some people in a pinch (we do transport grandparents pretty often).

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          • George KG Offline
                            George KG Offline
                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            In a few years, you'll love that third row,

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            • X xenon

                              Haha - I got a BMW X7. I loved my minivan, but the thing held its value too well. It's almost 3 years old but I got more for it than I spent on it new.

                              Honestly - I felt like I just wanted to cash in on that more than anything.

                              I don't use the car for commutes, so its mostly just a road trip car + errands. Much funner driving this thing in the hills of the pacific northwest vs. the van.

                              Plus we're 99% we're stopping at 3 kids - so the big bench row works just fine for us.

                              CopperC Offline
                              CopperC Offline
                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              @xenon said in Tesla:

                              I got a BMW X7.

                              Nice

                              Watch out for democrats.

                              https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/climate-activists-deflate-tires-of-43-suvs-on-beacon-hill/

                              X 1 Reply Last reply
                              • CopperC Copper

                                @xenon said in Tesla:

                                I got a BMW X7.

                                Nice

                                Watch out for democrats.

                                https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/climate-activists-deflate-tires-of-43-suvs-on-beacon-hill/

                                X Offline
                                X Offline
                                xenon
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                @Copper said in Tesla:

                                @xenon said in Tesla:

                                I got a BMW X7.

                                Nice

                                Watch out for democrats.

                                https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/climate-activists-deflate-tires-of-43-suvs-on-beacon-hill/

                                Winning hearts and minds.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                Reply
                                • Reply as topic
                                Log in to reply
                                • Oldest to Newest
                                • Newest to Oldest
                                • Most Votes


                                • Login

                                • Don't have an account? Register

                                • Login or register to search.
                                • First post
                                  Last post
                                0
                                • Categories
                                • Recent
                                • Tags
                                • Popular
                                • Users
                                • Groups