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[Renauda]

@Jolly

Personally, I think the only way to permanently deal with the situation is to make the Palestinians A)leave or B) die.

Right now your option B is the accepted rational and practicable choice.

Hey, Putin seems to like them. There's a lot of land in East Russia...

Ain’t going to happen. He does not like them that much. He has enough domestic Muslim problems as it is without importing more.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

@LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

Just gonna put this here:

Link to video

Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

@LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

There is zero moral equivalence between the two sides in this war

Just gonna put this here:

Link to video

Shapiro talks moral equivalence at 19:00.

Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

Same can be said for Jordan Peterson.

The public shape of a person who advocates for a tribe as a full time job, will inevitably become grotesque. It doesn't say much about them as a person or a thinker. It's just how public perception works on the internet.

[jon-nyc]

@LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

Yeah. A few years ago I heard him on Sam Harris’s podcast and thought he’s a lot smarter and more nuanced than he comes off in the various viral clips I had seen. So I subscribed to his podcast. Listened for 10 minutes and realized he’s a totally different persona there.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

@LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Wow, he is so much better in that type of setting as opposed to just trying to fill an hour on a podcast.

Yeah. A few years ago I heard him on Sam Harris’s podcast and thought he’s a lot smarter and more nuanced than he comes off in the various viral clips I had seen. So I subscribed to his podcast. Listened for 10 minutes and realized he’s a totally different persona there.

Watch the Oxford video George posted in the other thread.

[Jolly]

For several folks, the setting is everything. Mark Levin, to be charitable, is grating on the radio. OTOH, his tv show on FOX (Life, Liberty, and Levin) is much lower key. And much better.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

For several folks, the setting is everything. Mark Levin, to be charitable, is grating on the radio. OTOH, his tv show on FOX (Life, Liberty, and Levin) is much lower key. And much better.

Levin’s real life persona is milder than both.

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[Mik]

@Renauda said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Like Phibes, I have no issue with the physical annihilation of Hamas and its leadership. That would also include Salafist imams who stoke the fanatical cadres of Hamas through religious psychological corecion and bloodthirsty propaganda.

That does not equate to the physical extermination or ethnic cleansing of Arab Palestinians. There is no moral justification for either, both are indefensible and reprehensible.

There you go again, making sense. Both the imperatives and the moral implications are quite clear here. Where it gets tricky is the manifestation of both. We expect Israel to walk a very fine tightwire, but I think they are capable of it.

[Renauda]

@Mik

We expect Israel to walk a very fine tightwire, but I think they are capable of it.

I am confident they can and will.

[Horace]

Ta Nahisi Coates visited Palestinian territories expecting to need to study and observe and think deeply about the situation, but was struck by how obvious the immorality of the situation was. Why is he wrong?

Link to video

[jon-nyc]

The camera guy takes it too far but interesting to watch all the same.

[Horace]

Fafo. Principles should have consequences. First time in either of those two’s lives that a principle had a consequence. They didn’t like the taste.

[jon-nyc]

I first thought the guy on the left was a woman, without paying close attention. But the aggression was the tell, even more than the voice or the subsequent closer look.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

I first thought the guy on the left was a woman, without paying close attention. But the aggression was the tell, even more than the voice of the subsequent closer look.

I thought so too. But the body language was also unmistakably that of a man who has no physical capacity to back up the tone of voice.

[jon-nyc]

Hilarious.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Hilarious.

Writing is simultaneously less sophisticated, but funnier and far more aware than anything SNL has done in the past decade.

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

funnier and far more aware than anything SNL has done in the past decade.

You meant "century."

Also, I didn't find it "funny" in a SNL sense of "funny." I found it a bit disturbing in the sense that is reveals how ignorant these asshats are.

But, kudos to SNL for having the balls to air this.

I wonder what the pushback will be.

[George K]

[taiwan_girl]

@Horace said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Fafo. Principles should have consequences. First time in either of those two’s lives that a principle had a consequence. They didn’t like the taste.

@Horace said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

Fafo. Principles should have consequences. First time in either of those two’s lives that a principle had a consequence. They didn’t like the taste.

I agree. If you have the thought to do the actions, then be willing to explain them.