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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    As he fights a growing list of federal fraud changes, Rep. George Santos (R-NY) vowed on Wednesday that he’d fight until “the bitter end”—but made clear he found the whole ordeal an annoyance. “It's frustrating to me that I have to sit here and now have to defend myself for things that I pay someone else to do,” Santos said while speaking to a gathering of reporters Wednesday. “‘The buck stops with me’ is an exaggerated term, especially when you’re a candidate ... I'm not an experienced politician,” he said. Santos insisted that “I did not create a fake campaign,” and that he was “pretty much denying every last bit of charges,” but ultimately equivocated on whether he improperly took COVID-19 relief money while making six-figures at an investment firm. “Even if I were to have taken two checks too many, let's make it very clear: Nobody in this country gets indicted for taking a check or two more than they are entitled to during unemployment period or in that case and completely extenuating circumstance of the pandemic,” he said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/santos-blames-alleged-fraud-on-political-inexperience-in-wild-new-interview

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    • George KG Offline
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      By the way, have there been any moves by Senate leadership to expel Menendez?

      There have been calls for his resignation, of course, but anything official in the offing?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #37

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          About time.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            2/3 majority required to remove him from office.

            I assume that all Democrat will vote to remove him. Then it will require about 78 Republics to also vote to remove him.

            It will be in interesting vote.

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            • George KG Offline
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              With the election a year away, there's probably little risk to removing him. The Governor will appoint a (Democrat) replacement who will then probably win the seat in 2024. Legislatively and politically, I think the GOP is at the point where the loss of one seat matters little.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                You can't have it both ways. Neither party can claim any sort of moral high ground while countenancing such a bad con man in office.

                Do you hear me Congressman Menendez?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  You can't have it both ways. Neither party can claim any sort of moral high ground while countenancing such a bad con man in office.

                  Do you hear me Congressman Menendez?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @Mik said in George Santos Charged:

                  Do you hear me Congressman Menendez?

                  (Senator)

                  I'm waiting for something other than "He should resign" statements from the Democrats. Has anyone filed a motion?

                  One can make the case that his (alleged) crimes are of a more serious nature than Santos'.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-republicans-force-vote-push-expel-george-santos/story?id=104539525

                    Republican-led push to expel George Santos fails in the House

                    The resolution needed a two-thirds majority to succeed, but fell well short. The final vote was 179 to 213 with 19 members voting present.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-republicans-force-vote-push-expel-george-santos/story?id=104539525

                      Republican-led push to expel George Santos fails in the House

                      The resolution needed a two-thirds majority to succeed, but fell well short. The final vote was 179 to 213 with 19 members voting present.

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                      @Axtremus Interesting

                      The resolution, introduced by Santos' fellow freshman Republicans from New York, received 179 votes, while 213 voted against it.

                      24 Republicans broke with their party and voted to expel Santos, but 31 Democrats voted against expelling him. Four Republicans and 15 Democrats also voted present.

                      Many of the Republicans who voted to expel Santos were moderates or swing-district members, including Santos' fellow New York freshmen who introduced the resolution.

                      What we're hearing: Some Democrats were concerned about the precedent of voting to expel Santos before either a conviction or an Ethics Committee report, several senior House Democrats told Axios.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Axtremus Interesting

                        The resolution, introduced by Santos' fellow freshman Republicans from New York, received 179 votes, while 213 voted against it.

                        24 Republicans broke with their party and voted to expel Santos, but 31 Democrats voted against expelling him. Four Republicans and 15 Democrats also voted present.

                        Many of the Republicans who voted to expel Santos were moderates or swing-district members, including Santos' fellow New York freshmen who introduced the resolution.

                        What we're hearing: Some Democrats were concerned about the precedent of voting to expel Santos before either a conviction or an Ethics Committee report, several senior House Democrats told Axios.

                        George KG Offline
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                        @taiwan_girl said in George Santos Charged:

                        What we're hearing: Some Democrats were concerned about the precedent of voting to expel Santos before either a conviction or an Ethics Committee report, several senior House Democrats told Axios.

                        I've read that the representative who introduced the measure to expel Santos plans to reintroduce it after the Ethics Committee releases its findings.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Why did they elect him, exactly?

                            I was only joking

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                              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/substantial-evidence-rep-george-santos-broke-law-ethics-panel-finds-rcna125335

                              Embattled Rep. George Santos said Thursday he will not seek reelection in 2024 after the House Ethics Committee released a scathing report that concluded there is “substantial evidence” the New York Republican “violated federal criminal laws,” including using campaign funds for personal purposes and filing false campaign reports.

                              "I will continue on my mission to serve my constituents up until I am allowed. I will however NOT be seeking re-election for a second term in 2024 as my family deserves better than to be under the gun from the press all the time," Santos said in a statement on the social media site X.

                              In its wide-ranging 56-page report, the Ethics subcommittee tasked with investigating Santos found "a complex web of unlawful activity involving Representative Santos’ campaign, personal, and business finances. Representative Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his House candidacy for his own personal financial profit."

                              "He blatantly stole from his campaign. He deceived donors into providing what they thought were contributions to his campaign but were in fact payments for his personal benefit. He reported fictitious loans to his political committees to induce donors and party committees to make further contributions to his campaign—and then diverted more campaign money to himself as purported 'repayments' of those fictitious loans," the report continues.

                              Santos "used his connections to high-value donors and other political campaigns" to enrich himself, the report contends. "And he sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents, donors, and staff about his background and experience," it says.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Only the finest thieves get to be in Congress.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG George K

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/substantial-evidence-rep-george-santos-broke-law-ethics-panel-finds-rcna125335

                                  Embattled Rep. George Santos said Thursday he will not seek reelection in 2024 after the House Ethics Committee released a scathing report that concluded there is “substantial evidence” the New York Republican “violated federal criminal laws,” including using campaign funds for personal purposes and filing false campaign reports.

                                  "I will continue on my mission to serve my constituents up until I am allowed. I will however NOT be seeking re-election for a second term in 2024 as my family deserves better than to be under the gun from the press all the time," Santos said in a statement on the social media site X.

                                  In its wide-ranging 56-page report, the Ethics subcommittee tasked with investigating Santos found "a complex web of unlawful activity involving Representative Santos’ campaign, personal, and business finances. Representative Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his House candidacy for his own personal financial profit."

                                  "He blatantly stole from his campaign. He deceived donors into providing what they thought were contributions to his campaign but were in fact payments for his personal benefit. He reported fictitious loans to his political committees to induce donors and party committees to make further contributions to his campaign—and then diverted more campaign money to himself as purported 'repayments' of those fictitious loans," the report continues.

                                  Santos "used his connections to high-value donors and other political campaigns" to enrich himself, the report contends. "And he sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents, donors, and staff about his background and experience," it says.

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                                  @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

                                  Santos "used his connections to high-value donors and other political campaigns" to enrich himself,

                                  LOL

                                  https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1213261293/george-santos-reelection-ethics-committee-report

                                  Investigators say cash contributed to Santos's election effort wound up being spent on personal expenses, including botox treatment, purchases at Hermes and Sephora and "purchases at OnlyFans."

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      That excuse only flies for the first visit. 😆

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        There will be a House vote as to whether to expel Santos.

                                        I'm of mixed mind on this one.

                                        In my opinion, the guy's a dishonest, inveterate liar, who, besides those endearing attributes, appears to have engaged in some serious criminal activity. He has no place being a Congressman.

                                        But...

                                        I fear it sets a dangerous precedent (as if we needed another). So far, everything has been accusations and allegations. He's been convicted of nothing, and he's innocent of these crimes until...

                                        So it comes down to the House voting to expel him because he's a horrible person, and there would be a long list of such people in DC, and they don't like him.

                                        Should this be left up to the voters?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          There will be a House vote as to whether to expel Santos.

                                          I'm of mixed mind on this one.

                                          In my opinion, the guy's a dishonest, inveterate liar, who, besides those endearing attributes, appears to have engaged in some serious criminal activity. He has no place being a Congressman.

                                          But...

                                          I fear it sets a dangerous precedent (as if we needed another). So far, everything has been accusations and allegations. He's been convicted of nothing, and he's innocent of these crimes until...

                                          So it comes down to the House voting to expel him because he's a horrible person, and there would be a long list of such people in DC, and they don't like him.

                                          Should this be left up to the voters?

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                                          @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

                                          Should this be left up to the voters?

                                          In a sane world he'd have resigned months ago.

                                          In the British system when something like this happens they can remove the party whip from him, essentially kicking him out of the party. He would still be an MP, but without access to any party resources. He would continue to sit as an independent. Is there anything similar in the US?

                                          I was only joking

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