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  • George KG Offline
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    https://www.business-standard.com/industry/auto/1-200-km-range-10-min-charge-toyota-near-solid-state-battery-breakthrough-123102300252_1.html

    Japanese automaker Toyota is close to being able to manufacture solid-state batteries at the same pace as existing batteries for electric vehicles, the Financial Times (FT) reported on Monday. It said that mass production of solid-state batteries may start by 2027 or 2028.

    The automaker recently said it has reached a breakthrough that could halve the cost and size of these batteries. If successful, Toyota said that solid-state batteries will double the range of EVs up to 1,200 km. The charging time will be 10 minutes or less.

    Last week, Toyota agreed to work with Idemitsu, a major Japanese oil company, on technology for mass production of solid-state batteries.

    According to the Associated Press, the deal is important for Toyota, which has promised to speed up its battery EV offerings and catch up after having fallen behind rivals like Tesla and China's BYD. Toyota lags partly because of its success in hybrids, like the Prius, equipped with petrol engines and battery-powered motors.

    "With repeated efforts involving trial and error, we have succeeded in developing a material that is more stable and less prone to crack," Toyota chief executive Koji Sato had then told reporters.

    "The future of mobility lies in the tie-up between the auto and energy sectors, including this innovation hailing from Japan," he said.

    Idemitsu has been researching basic technologies for all-solid-state batteries since 2001. Toyota started in 2006. Kito said recent innovations will help the batteries now in the works overcome the edge lithium-ion batteries have had over EVs.

    Many of the world's top automakers are working on solid-state batteries, including Toyota's domestic rival Nissan and American manufacturer Ford.

    What are solid-state batteries, and how are they different from Li-ion?

    A solid-state battery is made up of a cathode, anode, and solid electrolyte. It is different from lithium-ion batteries that use liquid electrolyte. The current Li-ion batteries risk damage, such as swelling or leakage, as they use liquid electrolytes. They are also more prone to catching fire.

    However, a solid-state battery with solid electrolyte negates these worries and provides more stability with a solid structure. It also increases the device's safety, even if the battery is damaged.

    According to FT, solid-state batteries are essential for mass commercialising battery-powered EVs.

    "The era of the solid-state battery is right around the corner," said Idemistu's CEO Shunichi Kito, announcing the deal with Toyota.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Now, that's a game changer.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        Yup. Impressive if it comes to bear.

        I imagine Tesla will take a hard look at these batteries.

        Note that Ford is working on them as well.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • W Offline
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          If I recall correctly a British engineer (?) developed such a battery years ago, but couldn't find sponsoring

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            Toyota should look on Amazon.

            They have everything!

            https://www.amazon.com/Yoshino-B660-SST-Solid-State-Generator/dp/B0C9RQQ9ZN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=solid+state+battery&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-3

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            • W Wim

              If I recall correctly a British engineer (?) developed such a battery years ago, but couldn't find sponsoring

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              @Wim said in Better Battery?:

              If I recall correctly a British engineer (?) developed such a xxxx years ago, but couldn't find sponsoring

              That's pretty much the entire story of British engineering over the last 100 or so years

              I was only joking

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                https://insideevs.com/news/675517/toyota-battery-breakthrough-745-miles-range/

                Toyota claims it has made a technological breakthrough that will eventually lead to a solid-state battery capable of delivering up to 745 miles (1,199 kilometers) of range, all while completely recharging in 10 minutes, according to The Guardian, quoting Keiji Kaita, president of the company’s research and development center for carbon neutrality.

                The Japanese car manufacturer said yesterday that it had simplified production of the material used to make both solid-state and liquid-based batteries, which will allow it to halve the weight, size, and cost of the packs that end up in vehicles.

                As an integral part of its decarbonization strategy, Toyota says that its new solid-state batteries could be offered in its next-gen EVs as early as 2027.

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                  That would kick gasoline’s ass.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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