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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #132

    Blame the (conservative) media!

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/12/matt-gaetz-conservative-media-00121095

    Article blames the GOP's dysfunction on "conservative media" (AM talk radio, FoxNews, etc.).

    An excerpt:

    But the truth is that angry conservative media hosts have only themselves to blame for McCarthy’s downfall and the disarray currently facing House Republicans.
    .
    The leaders of conservative talk radio and cable news have spent years assailing GOP congressional leaders — including McCarthy — and they are largely responsible for turning far-right rebels like Gaetz into stars. Going back to the 1990s, conservative media created the political ecosystem in which torching and targeting Republican leaders is good politics on the right. And they’ve ensured that the next speaker, whether it’s Steve Scalise or someone else, will face the same poisonous incentive structure that took down McCarthy.

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      #133

      https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2023/10/13/republicans-pick-jim-jordan-as-nominee-for-house-speaker/

      Republicans chose Rep. Jim Jordan as their new nominee for House speaker on Friday during internal voting, putting the gavel within reach of the staunch ally of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

      Jordan, of Ohio, will now try to unite colleagues from the deeply divided House GOP majority around his bid ahead of a floor vote, which could push to next week.

      Frustrated House Republicans have been fighting bitterly over whom they should elect to replace the speaker they ousted, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, and the future direction of their party. The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2023/10/13/republicans-pick-jim-jordan-as-nominee-for-house-speaker/

        Republicans chose Rep. Jim Jordan as their new nominee for House speaker on Friday during internal voting, putting the gavel within reach of the staunch ally of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

        Jordan, of Ohio, will now try to unite colleagues from the deeply divided House GOP majority around his bid ahead of a floor vote, which could push to next week.

        Frustrated House Republicans have been fighting bitterly over whom they should elect to replace the speaker they ousted, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, and the future direction of their party. The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

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        @taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

        It’s a national embarrassment.

        Once this is resolved, I would expect the House to implement a mechanism whereby this is prevented.

        Perhaps giving the Speaker Pro Tem authorities that the Speaker has for a limited time.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #135

          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-adjourns-disarray-support-jordan-looks-weaker-than-expected

          Jordan won 124 votes against his rival in the race, Rep. Austin Scott, R-Ga., who won 81.

          After the first ballot, Jordan called for a second round in which lawmakers were asked whether they will support Jordan on the House floor.

          He managed to win 152 votes on that round, but 55 Republicans still said they would vote against him. A GOP candidate for speaker would need to reach 217 votes to win a House-wide vote with no Democratic support.

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          • RainmanR Offline
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            #136

            A google response to my question stated there were 59 members in the House originally (59 - 65). Of course they didn't have Smart Phones so it all equals out. That's sarcasm, AX. Don't fret that I'm increasing in idiocityness.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #137

              There is some talk about bringing Dems in for a bipartisan vote.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                #138

                That would be a good development but not very 2023. Still we can hope.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #139

                  Yes, I dont see how Rep. Jordan can win. As one of the reps. said, voting for him is rewarding the very few few R. representatives who voted to remove Rep. McCarthy.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    That would be a good development but not very 2023. Still we can hope.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    That would be a good development but not very 2023. Still we can hope.

                    Ain't gonna happen. I'm surprised that even it got as far as it did...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      Yes, I dont see how Rep. Jordan can win. As one of the reps. said, voting for him is rewarding the very few few R. representatives who voted to remove Rep. McCarthy.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      @taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      Yes, I dont see how Rep. Jordan can win. As one of the reps. said, voting for him is rewarding the very few few R. representatives who voted to remove Rep. McCarthy.

                      That would be letting the terrorists win.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #142

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            jon-nyc
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                            Jordan lost the vote.

                            In other heartening news, there was a brief bipartisan moment.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jordan-could-become-speaker-without-house-majority-risky-gambit-last-used-before-civil-war

                              ...Jordan does not necessarily need to get the required House majority to take the gavel. The House has elected a speaker a few times in history on a plurality rather than an outright majority.

                              The House is allowed to decide how the speaker election is held, according to House Practice, so changing the threshold is an option on the table.

                              In fact, there have been two plurality elections to decide the House speaker in American history.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #146

                                Yeah but the people who don't want Jordan to be speaker wouldn't vote for that either, one would think.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
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                                  #147

                                  Fine.

                                  Let it just sit.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #148

                                    Going after the spouses?

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      #149

                                      Is that like "death threats" and their usefulness in the social discussion?

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Is that like "death threats" and their usefulness in the social discussion?

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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        #150

                                        @Horace said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                        Is that like "death threats" and their usefulness in the social discussion?

                                        I don't it is equivalent to death threats but it is pretty low to do something like that to a spouse.

                                        Of course, there is no proof or evidence of who was doing the message to Mrs. Bacon.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          He lost vote 2 by an even larger margin.

                                          Time to go, Jimbo.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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