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  • T taiwan_girl
    4 Jul 2020, 01:52

    I t thought this was interesting

    People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

    I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

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    Copper
    wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:16 last edited by
    #4

    @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

    during US Independence War

    Not 150 years later

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:37 last edited by
      #5

      A way long time ago there was a television show -- I think hosted by Steve Allen (might have been Dick Cavett) -- presenting a dinner party with 6-8 people around the table from various times in history. They held conversations pertinent to their times and how their fields of interest related to each other. Full costume, the actors perfectly in character; it was a great show. Like (making this up, I hardly remember the program) an episode might feature Thomas Jefferson, Marie Curie and Winston Churchill. It was absolutely great.

      I'd love to see such a dinner party with Patrick Henry and H.L. Mencken.

      Oh, Mr. Henry! Please come back!

      Thanks, Jolly.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • C Catseye3
        4 Jul 2020, 16:37

        A way long time ago there was a television show -- I think hosted by Steve Allen (might have been Dick Cavett) -- presenting a dinner party with 6-8 people around the table from various times in history. They held conversations pertinent to their times and how their fields of interest related to each other. Full costume, the actors perfectly in character; it was a great show. Like (making this up, I hardly remember the program) an episode might feature Thomas Jefferson, Marie Curie and Winston Churchill. It was absolutely great.

        I'd love to see such a dinner party with Patrick Henry and H.L. Mencken.

        Oh, Mr. Henry! Please come back!

        Thanks, Jolly.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 16:41 last edited by
        #6

        @Catseye3 said in March 23, 1775:

        A way long time ago there was a television show -- I think hosted by Steve Allen (might have been Dick Cavett) -- presenting a dinner party with 6-8 people around the table from various times in history. They held conversations pertinent to their times and how their fields of interest related to each other. Full costume, the actors perfectly in character; it was a great show. Like (making this up, I hardly remember the program) an episode might feature Thomas Jefferson, Marie Curie and Winston Churchill. It was absolutely great.

        I'd love to see such a dinner party with Patrick Henry and H.L. Mencken.

        Oh, Mr. Henry! Please come back!

        Thanks, Jolly.

        Steve Allen. On PBS.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          4 Jul 2020, 15:57

          @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

          I t thought this was interesting

          People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

          I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

          You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:38 last edited by
          #7

          @Jolly said in March 23, 1775:

          @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

          I t thought this was interesting

          People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

          I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

          You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

          Not at all. As I said, i dont think it was a good idea then, and is not a good idea now.

          However, the winner gets to write history. If the US, were still under that British, how do you think the revolutionists would be portrayed in history books.

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          • T taiwan_girl
            4 Jul 2020, 17:38

            @Jolly said in March 23, 1775:

            @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

            I t thought this was interesting

            People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

            I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

            You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

            Not at all. As I said, i dont think it was a good idea then, and is not a good idea now.

            However, the winner gets to write history. If the US, were still under that British, how do you think the revolutionists would be portrayed in history books.

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            Horace
            wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:41 last edited by
            #8

            @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

            @Jolly said in March 23, 1775:

            @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

            I t thought this was interesting

            People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

            I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

            You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

            Not at all. As I said, i dont think it was a good idea then, and is not a good idea now.

            However, the winner gets to write history. If the US, were still under that British, how do you think the revolutionists would be portrayed in history books.

            How is American history portrayed now by descendants of the winners?

            Education is extremely important.

            T 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jul 2020, 17:44
            • H Horace
              4 Jul 2020, 17:41

              @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

              @Jolly said in March 23, 1775:

              @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

              I t thought this was interesting

              People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

              I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

              You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

              Not at all. As I said, i dont think it was a good idea then, and is not a good idea now.

              However, the winner gets to write history. If the US, were still under that British, how do you think the revolutionists would be portrayed in history books.

              How is American history portrayed now by descendants of the winners?

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:44 last edited by
              #9

              @Horace said in March 23, 1775:

              @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

              @Jolly said in March 23, 1775:

              @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

              I t thought this was interesting

              People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

              I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

              You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

              Not at all. As I said, i dont think it was a good idea then, and is not a good idea now.

              However, the winner gets to write history. If the US, were still under that British, how do you think the revolutionists would be portrayed in history books.

              How is American history portrayed now by descendants of the winners?

              My understanding from reading and learning is the Independence fight was true and just. The cause was the right one.

              Have you learned something different?

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                Horace
                wrote on 4 Jul 2020, 17:53 last edited by
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                It is a peculiarity of American culture that we have been engaged for quite some time now in reframing our history in a negative light. The revolutionary war hasn't been reframed yet, but if it becomes politically useful to do so, it will be, by the party who's found so much political value in such reframings.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • T taiwan_girl
                  4 Jul 2020, 17:44

                  @Horace said in March 23, 1775:

                  @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

                  @Jolly said in March 23, 1775:

                  @taiwan_girl said in March 23, 1775:

                  I t thought this was interesting

                  People destroy statue of George III during US Independence War

                  I do not think it was a good idea then, and not now either. But just goes to show that this type of behavior is not new, and the US ancestors are not exempt.

                  You equate the current behavior with the American Revolution?

                  Not at all. As I said, i dont think it was a good idea then, and is not a good idea now.

                  However, the winner gets to write history. If the US, were still under that British, how do you think the revolutionists would be portrayed in history books.

                  How is American history portrayed now by descendants of the winners?

                  My understanding from reading and learning is the Independence fight was true and just. The cause was the right one.

                  Have you learned something different?

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 6 Jul 2020, 14:17 last edited by Renauda 7 Jun 2020, 15:52
                  #11

                  @taiwan_girl

                  I was taught that it was a colonial revolt which some of the British North American colonies did not support and chose instead to remain loyal to the British Crown.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 6 Jul 2020, 14:32 last edited by
                    #12

                    I think our history teacher used the term 'ungrateful fucking bastards'.

                    Which got our attention, as she was a nun.

                    I was only joking

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 6 Jul 2020, 14:33 last edited by
                      #13

                      We didn't ask you crackers to come here to start with.....

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