Meanwhile, at Harvard...

[Axtremus]

There you go again with the Daily Mail.

Try the Harvard Crimson:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/10/8/israel-invasion-hillel-gathering/

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

Try the Harvard Crimson:

More than 100 University affiliates attended a Harvard Hillel gathering Saturday afternoon to mourn the lives lost to a deadly invasion of Israel by the Islamist militant group Hamas and to offer support to those affected by the attacks.

Do you think that these organizations total "more than 100 university affiliates?"

The Harvard Crimson Editorial from a year and a half ago:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/4/29/editorial-bds/

We do not take this decision lightly. BDS remains a blunt approach, one with the potential to backfire or prompt collateral damage in the form of economic hurt. But the weight of this moment — of Israel’s human rights and international law violations and of Palestine’s cry for freedom — demands this step. As a board, we are proud to finally lend our support to both Palestinian liberation and BDS — and we call on everyone to do the same.

[George K]

In nearly 50 years of @Harvard affiliation, I have never been as disillusioned and alienated as I am today.

The silence from Harvard’s leadership, so far, coupled with a vocal and widely reported student groups' statement blaming Israel solely, has allowed Harvard to appear at best neutral towards acts of terror against the Jewish state of Israel.

Unlike President Bacow’s strong statement of support for Ukraine after Putin’s invasion and the decision to fly the Ukraine flag over Harvard yard...

Statement on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Harvard University President: https://rb.gy/zx7ff

The deplorable actions of Vladimir Putin put at risk the lives of millions of people and undermine the concept of sovereignty.

https://rb.gy/zx7ff

...or Dean Gay’s powerful statement on police violence, we have as yet - 48 hours later - no official Harvard statement at this time of moral testing.

Claudine Gay's Statement on the Death of George Floyd: https://rb.gy/alqdr

Instead, Harvard is being defined by the morally unconscionable statement apparently coming from two dozen student groups blaming all the violence on Israel. I am sickened. I cannot fathom the Administration’s failure to disassociate the University and condemn this statement.

I very much hope appropriate statements from the University and College condemning those who launched terrorist attacks and standing in solidarity with its victims will soon be forthcoming.

To be clear nothing is wrong with criticizing Israeli policy past, present or future. I have been sharply critical of PM Netanyahu. But that is very different from lack of clarity regarding terrorism.

[Horace]

Known misogynist.

[LuFins Dad]

After the investment guy announced that nobody that signed that letter would be hired by his company, they went back to try and hide the signatories. How brave…

[Jolly]

The Dersh said on tv last night he had taught at Harvard fifty years, but was no longer welcome on campus.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

The Dersh said on tv last night he had taught at Harvard fifty years, but was no longer welcome on campus.

https://dersh.substack.com/p/publish-the-names-of-students-and?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=373575&post_id=137870158&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=bcowk&utm_medium=email

Let the student newspapers, many of which are rabidly anti-Israel, publish the names of all students and faculty members who belong to groups that support and oppose Hamas. Hypothetically, if a club were formed at any of these universities that advocated rape or the lynching of African Americans, the newspapers would most assuredly publish the names of everyone associated with such a despicable group. Why is this different? Rape has become a weapon of war for Hamas, along with lynching, mutilation, mass murder and kidnapping. Expressing support for these acts, while constitutionally protected, is wrong. The answer to wrong speech isn't censorship; it is right speech, and transparency.

So let the names be published. Let the despicable students and faculty members who support Hamas stand up and defend their indefensible views, and let the marketplace of ideas decide who is right and who is wrong.

[jon-nyc]

Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

[Copper]

@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

only a trait of the woke.

Only is pretty strong.

Maybe 92% is closer.

[Horace]

In the social sciences, moderate correlations are the best one can ever hope for.

[LuFins Dad]

Pro-Hamas group at George Washington University are now wearing masks to protect their identity.

[Renauda]

As if Burqas and Niqabs are going to let them blend in.

[LuFins Dad]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/students-hide-identities-masks-praising-hamas-massacre-israelis

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

Pro-Hamas group at George Washington University are now wearing masks to protect their identity.

Being proud to take a stance is a quality to be admired.

As long as your stance doesn't interfere with future employment, of course. I mean, you can only take commitment so far, right?

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

Both sides are equal, except when the right is worse.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Jolly said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

@jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

Don’t ever let anyone tell you cancel culture is only a trait of the woke.

Yeah, get your point, but the scope is rather important. On one side, you have screaming Mimis doxxing people and calling their workplaces to threaten their employers because they suggest they don’t want their daughters sharing locker rooms with women with erect penises… On the other side you have lawyers and financial service guys saying that they won’t hire people that are applauding, cheering, and supporting the rape and murders of young girls, the beheading of infants, and the absolutely batshit crazy stuff that went down last weekend.

And another thing...Dershowitz did not call for these students to be banned from employment anywhere. He did not call for their expulsion from Harvard.

And he made it a point to state unequivocally the students have a right to free speech.

But...He wanted the students to defend their position in the public square.

Things could change but anti-semitism isn't even in the same ballpark as choosing a poor-taste Halloween costume that one time in the 80s. And I currently don't see evidence of Dersh ginning up a mob of petition-writers to try to get the kids expelled. Nor do I see him publicizing their home addresses. Nor do I see him describing their faces as "punchable." Nor do I see women making shit up about sexual assault allegations regarding these students because they're publicly on the wrong side of a conservative mob. Nor do I see the Daily Wire reporting on those made-up stories as if they were factual.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, at Harvard...:

@Jolly @Aqua-Letifer I think @jon-nyc was referring to the investment banker that said he wouldn’t hire and the lawyer that rescinded a job offer.

So apparently that's the same as woke cancel culture?