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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #24

    I'd be skeptical of that. I think any plea would include jail time, and won't come for many months.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • George KG George K

      An unverified rumor is that DOJ will drop charges if he resigns, opening the door for a special election.

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      @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

      An unverified rumor is that DOJ will drop charges if he resigns, opening the door for a special election.

      Of course. Anything to flip a seat.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

        An unverified rumor is that DOJ will drop charges if he resigns, opening the door for a special election.

        Of course. Anything to flip a seat.

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        @Jolly said in George Santos Charged:

        @George-K said in George Santos Charged:

        An unverified rumor is that DOJ will drop charges if he resigns, opening the door for a special election.

        Of course. Anything to flip a seat.

        That seat hasn't been GOP since 2012 - Peter King (1992-2012). Before that, 1981-1983.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Santos is a Republican.

          The Dems can flip it in a special election. They certainly can flip it with a gubernatorial appointment, if that's the law in NY.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Santos is a Republican.

            The Dems can flip it in a special election. They certainly can flip it with a gubernatorial appointment, if that's the law in NY.

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            jon-nyc
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            @Jolly it would be a special election

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Santos co-sponsors unemployment fraud bill after being charged with that crime

              GOP Rep. George Santos on Thursday voted for a bill he co-sponsored that would crack down on a crime he is accused of -- unemployment fraud.

              The measure, the "Protecting Taxpayers and Victims of Unemployment Fraud Act," passed 230-200, would provide incentives to help states recover money lost to COVID unemployment fraud.

              Under the bill, states would retain 25% of recovered fraudulent overpayments and the statute of limitations for federal criminal charges or civil enforcement actions related to unemployment insurance fraud would be extended from five to 10 years.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Former campaign treasurer, pleads guilty

                https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nancy-marks-george-santos-former-campaign-treasurer-plead/story?id=103750377

                Nancy Marks, the former treasurer for embattled Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., pleaded guilty Thursday to a federal conspiracy charge.

                Marks allegedly filed the names of false donors to Santos' congressional campaign. Federal prosecutors said she did so to inflate the amount of campaign donations Santos appeared to have amassed so he could qualify for national party support.

                The names of Marks' and Santos' family members were among those falsely reported to have lent his campaign $500,000, despite not having the financial means to do so, prosecutors said.

                "These reports were created to artificially inflate his funds to meet a threshold," federal prosecutors said Marks told them.

                Her attorney, Raymond Perini, said his client does not have a cooperation agreement with the government in place, but "if they subpoena her, she'll do the right thing."

                "With today's guilty plea, Marks has admitted that she conspired with a congressional candidate to lie to the FEC and, by extension, the public about the financial state of the candidate's campaign for New York's Third Congressional District, falsely inflating the campaign's reported receipts with non-existent contributions and loans," United States Attorney Breon Peace said in a statement.

                Marks is scheduled to be sentenced next April.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  I am reminded of what the Illinois State Trooper told George about avoiding a ticket. “Don’t get my attention.”.

                  Santos stuck his nail head up and got hammered.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    https://apnews.com/article/george-santos-credit-card-fraud-f723e69a777b02a2e6b87595f45c21ce?taid=6525c7cd9d3cdd0001712d99&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                    A new indictment filed Tuesday charged U.S. Rep. George Santos with stealing the identities of donors to his campaign and then using their credit cards to ring up tens of thousands of dollars in unauthorized charges.

                    Prosecutors said some of that stolen money ended up in his own bank account.

                    The 23-count indictment replaces one filed earlier against the New York Republican charging him with embezzling money from his campaign and lying to Congress about his wealth, among other offenses.

                    The new charges include allegations that he charged more than $44,000 to his campaign over a period of months using cards belonging to contributors without their knowledge. In one case, he charged $12,000 to a contributor’s credit card and transferred the “vast majority” of that money into his personal bank account, prosecutors said.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4250089-george-santos-house-expulsion-new-york-gop-freshmen/

                      A House Republican will move to expel Rep. Santos from Congress.

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                        D’Esposito said the resolution will be co-sponsored by fellow first-term GOP Reps. Nick LaLota, Mike Lawler, Marc Molinaro, Nick Langworthy and Brandon Williams, all from New York.

                        Esposito and Langworthy are co-sponsors of my bill too.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          As he fights a growing list of federal fraud changes, Rep. George Santos (R-NY) vowed on Wednesday that he’d fight until “the bitter end”—but made clear he found the whole ordeal an annoyance. “It's frustrating to me that I have to sit here and now have to defend myself for things that I pay someone else to do,” Santos said while speaking to a gathering of reporters Wednesday. “‘The buck stops with me’ is an exaggerated term, especially when you’re a candidate ... I'm not an experienced politician,” he said. Santos insisted that “I did not create a fake campaign,” and that he was “pretty much denying every last bit of charges,” but ultimately equivocated on whether he improperly took COVID-19 relief money while making six-figures at an investment firm. “Even if I were to have taken two checks too many, let's make it very clear: Nobody in this country gets indicted for taking a check or two more than they are entitled to during unemployment period or in that case and completely extenuating circumstance of the pandemic,” he said.

                          https://www.thedailybeast.com/santos-blames-alleged-fraud-on-political-inexperience-in-wild-new-interview

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                            By the way, have there been any moves by Senate leadership to expel Menendez?

                            There have been calls for his resignation, of course, but anything official in the offing?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                About time.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  2/3 majority required to remove him from office.

                                  I assume that all Democrat will vote to remove him. Then it will require about 78 Republics to also vote to remove him.

                                  It will be in interesting vote.

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                                    With the election a year away, there's probably little risk to removing him. The Governor will appoint a (Democrat) replacement who will then probably win the seat in 2024. Legislatively and politically, I think the GOP is at the point where the loss of one seat matters little.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      You can't have it both ways. Neither party can claim any sort of moral high ground while countenancing such a bad con man in office.

                                      Do you hear me Congressman Menendez?

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        You can't have it both ways. Neither party can claim any sort of moral high ground while countenancing such a bad con man in office.

                                        Do you hear me Congressman Menendez?

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                                        @Mik said in George Santos Charged:

                                        Do you hear me Congressman Menendez?

                                        (Senator)

                                        I'm waiting for something other than "He should resign" statements from the Democrats. Has anyone filed a motion?

                                        One can make the case that his (alleged) crimes are of a more serious nature than Santos'.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ny-republicans-force-vote-push-expel-george-santos/story?id=104539525

                                          Republican-led push to expel George Santos fails in the House

                                          The resolution needed a two-thirds majority to succeed, but fell well short. The final vote was 179 to 213 with 19 members voting present.

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