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    actually I read this one a while ago, but the thread from Catseye reminded me of it, so I will post it here.

    In the Kingdom of Ice

    alt text

    I thought it was a really really good book. Really into the atmosphere of the time. Amazing the challenges and trials that they went through.

    From the notes:
    In the late nineteenth century, people were obsessed by one of the last unmapped areas of the globe: the North Pole. No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans, although theories abounded. The foremost cartographer in the world, a German named August Petermann, believed that warm currents sustained a verdant island at the top of the world. National glory would fall to whoever could plant his flag upon its shores.

    James Gordon Bennett, the eccentric and stupendously wealthy owner of the New York Herald, had recently captured the world’s attention by dispatching Stanley to Africa to find Dr. Livingstone. Now he was keen to re-create that sensation on an even more epic scale. So he funded an official U.S. naval expedition to reach the Pole, choosing as its captain a young officer named George Washington De Long, who had gained fame for a rescue operation off the coast of Greenland. De Long led a team of 32 men deep into uncharted Arctic waters, carrying the aspirations of a young country burning to become a world power. On July 8, 1879, the USS Jeannette set sail from San Francisco to cheering crowds in the grip of “Arctic Fever.”

    The ship sailed into uncharted seas, but soon was trapped in pack ice. Two years into the harrowing voyage, the hull was breached. Amid the rush of water and the shrieks of breaking wooden boards, the crew abandoned the ship. Less than an hour later, the Jeannette sank to the bottom, and the men found themselves marooned a thousand miles north of Siberia with only the barest supplies. Thus began their long march across the endless ice—a frozen hell in the most lonesome corner of the world. Facing everything from snow blindness and polar bears to ferocious storms and frosty labyrinths, the expedition battled madness and starvation as they desperately strove for survival.

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      The author's one and only book, written and published shortly before he was KIA. Often compared to All Quiet On The Western Front.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

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        Good read. A bit mired in minutia at times, but it gives a great overview of the settling of the Ohio Valley, with an emphasis on Marietta. It spans the years from about 1790 to 1865.

        To add to what @Jolly said here, apparently it was common knowledge among the settlers that Jefferson was taking "liberties" with those people he owned.

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        The book investigates a series of murders of wealthy Osage people that took place in Osage County, Oklahoma in the early 1920s—after big oil deposits were discovered beneath their land.[6][7] After the Osage Native Americans are awarded rights in court to the profits made from oil deposits found on their land, the Osage people prepare for receiving the wealth to which they believe they are legally entitled from sales of their oil deposits.

        However, a long and complex process of custodianship is imposed upon the distribution of the profits from the sales being made for very high profits and very few if any of the Osage people see any of this money. Still, they are the legal owners of the land and its profits, which is irksome to some of the administrators of the land who have a history of poor relations with the Osage people. Those elements hostile to the Osage people then decide that they could greatly simplify their profit mongering of the oil profits by eliminating those whom they consider to be operating as the "middle man" before they can abscond with the oil profits.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          I know all you trumpets will hate me but I’m loving Bolton’s book. Halfway thru.

          The reason is not that I’ve become a Bolton fan, he is quite fixated on his agenda.

          But he writes so well. It’s such an easy book to read, I can hear him in my head narrating as we go along. He must have documented everything because he has details on almost every conversation and phone call.

          anyway, he is not even being vindicative with the Donald. He just describes the disarray. The impulsiveness. The lack of ooordination.

          So far the real tragic figure in the book is Kelly. He tried so hard to make some order. Bolton himself seems to have been resigned to getting the hatchet from the first day.

          Anyway, strongly recommended to both right and left of the aisle here. It’s Illuminating and very readable. Not like the trashy book fire and fury. This one is much much better. And not trashy or gossipy at all. Very erudite.

          Oh and p.s. absolutely no state secrets revealed. That was such an obvious ploy by trump to try to prevent publication. So don’t expect to hear who the mole in the kremlin is.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            actually I read this one a while ago, but the thread from Catseye reminded me of it, so I will post it here.

            In the Kingdom of Ice

            alt text

            I thought it was a really really good book. Really into the atmosphere of the time. Amazing the challenges and trials that they went through.

            From the notes:
            In the late nineteenth century, people were obsessed by one of the last unmapped areas of the globe: the North Pole. No one knew what existed beyond the fortress of ice rimming the northern oceans, although theories abounded. The foremost cartographer in the world, a German named August Petermann, believed that warm currents sustained a verdant island at the top of the world. National glory would fall to whoever could plant his flag upon its shores.

            James Gordon Bennett, the eccentric and stupendously wealthy owner of the New York Herald, had recently captured the world’s attention by dispatching Stanley to Africa to find Dr. Livingstone. Now he was keen to re-create that sensation on an even more epic scale. So he funded an official U.S. naval expedition to reach the Pole, choosing as its captain a young officer named George Washington De Long, who had gained fame for a rescue operation off the coast of Greenland. De Long led a team of 32 men deep into uncharted Arctic waters, carrying the aspirations of a young country burning to become a world power. On July 8, 1879, the USS Jeannette set sail from San Francisco to cheering crowds in the grip of “Arctic Fever.”

            The ship sailed into uncharted seas, but soon was trapped in pack ice. Two years into the harrowing voyage, the hull was breached. Amid the rush of water and the shrieks of breaking wooden boards, the crew abandoned the ship. Less than an hour later, the Jeannette sank to the bottom, and the men found themselves marooned a thousand miles north of Siberia with only the barest supplies. Thus began their long march across the endless ice—a frozen hell in the most lonesome corner of the world. Facing everything from snow blindness and polar bears to ferocious storms and frosty labyrinths, the expedition battled madness and starvation as they desperately strove for survival.

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            @taiwan_girl I read In the Kingdom of Ice a couple months ago. Amazing read about something I had absolutely no knowledge of.

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              Right now I am reading Valiant Ambition: George Washington, Benedict Arnold, and the Fate of the American Revolution by Nathaniel Philbrick.

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              • KincaidK Kincaid

                Right now I am reading Valiant Ambition: George Washington, Benedict Arnold, and the Fate of the American Revolution by Nathaniel Philbrick.

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                @Kincaid I love the story of Benedict Arnold, his wife, the reasons for his betrayal, etc.

                From what I gather, Miss Schippen (sp?) was quite the looker.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Kincaid I love the story of Benedict Arnold, his wife, the reasons for his betrayal, etc.

                  From what I gather, Miss Schippen (sp?) was quite the looker.

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                  @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                  @Kincaid I love the story of Benedict Arnold, his wife, the reasons for his betrayal, etc.

                  From what I gather, Miss Schippen (sp?) was quite the looker.

                  I also find it interesting how the British treated him afterward.

                  Paul Revere's got a great story as well. He was kind of a whiney asshole.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • bachophileB bachophile

                    I know all you trumpets will hate me but I’m loving Bolton’s book. Halfway thru.

                    The reason is not that I’ve become a Bolton fan, he is quite fixated on his agenda.

                    But he writes so well. It’s such an easy book to read, I can hear him in my head narrating as we go along. He must have documented everything because he has details on almost every conversation and phone call.

                    anyway, he is not even being vindicative with the Donald. He just describes the disarray. The impulsiveness. The lack of ooordination.

                    So far the real tragic figure in the book is Kelly. He tried so hard to make some order. Bolton himself seems to have been resigned to getting the hatchet from the first day.

                    Anyway, strongly recommended to both right and left of the aisle here. It’s Illuminating and very readable. Not like the trashy book fire and fury. This one is much much better. And not trashy or gossipy at all. Very erudite.

                    Oh and p.s. absolutely no state secrets revealed. That was such an obvious ploy by trump to try to prevent publication. So don’t expect to hear who the mole in the kremlin is.

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                    @bachophile said in What are you reading now?:

                    I know all you trumpets will hate me but I’m loving Bolton’s book. Halfway thru.

                    The reason is not that I’ve become a Bolton fan, he is quite fixated on his agenda.

                    But he writes so well. It’s such an easy book to read, I can hear him in my head narrating as we go along. He must have documented everything because he has details on almost every conversation and phone call.

                    I started it this morning and only read one chapter. It's remarkably "conversational" in style: "And then I met with so-and-so, and he told me that.... However, what's-his-name said..."

                    You're right, it's a fun and easy read. In the first chapter he's only given hints about the chaos that he perceived in the White House during the transition, but he wasn't really involved in that, afaict.

                    Gonna be fun.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Aqua or Other SciFi Fans:

                        Found this long-ago bookmarked title: Fuzzy Nation: an extraordinary retelling of the SF classic Little Fuzzy. ZaraCorp holds the right to extract unlimited resources from the verdant planet Zarathustra—as long as the planet is certifiably free of native sentients. So when an outback prospector discovers a species of small, appealing bipeds who might well turn out to be intelligent, language-using beings, it's a race to stop the corporation from "eliminating the problem," which is to say, eliminating the Fuzzies—wide-eyed and ridiculously cute small, and furry—who are as much people as we are.

                        It's written by John Scalzi. George, am I correct that you're a fan of his?

                        Anyway, do y'all know this book? Is it a thing? Is it good?

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          Yes, I'm a huge Scalzi fan. Several of his books are part of a series. @jolly recommended "Old Man's War." which was a real hard sci-fi story, focusing on military aspects of sci-fi. There are at least 4 more books in the series. One of them "Zoe's Tale" tells the same story as its predecessor, but from the viewpoint of a different character - an interesting approach.

                          He has just completed the final book of a trilogy ("The Collapsing Universe") that I've only read the first book of. I'm going to get the next two and do it in sequence.

                          "Lock-In" is a standalone novel about a detective who suffers a "lock-in" state because of a viral pandemic. Very creative. It has a sequel, but they're both pretty much standalone.

                          "Redshirts" is a take on "Star Trek:" What if Star Trek were real, and the characters knew they were part of an act?

                          "Fuzzy Nation" is, perhaps, the most light-hearted of his books. It has poignant scenes, funny stuff, and snappy, snappy dialog. I loved it.

                          Well, perhaps "Agent to the Stars" is the most light-hearted. Suppose that you're in an advertising agency, and your boss gives you a very, very unusual client. And you can't say anything about the client - yet. Loved it too.

                          So, for snappy, fast-paced, clever writing with witty dialog and creative and unusual stories, you can't do better than Scalzi. I owe Jolly for turning me on to him.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • bachophileB bachophile

                            I know all you trumpets will hate me but I’m loving Bolton’s book. Halfway thru.

                            The reason is not that I’ve become a Bolton fan, he is quite fixated on his agenda.

                            But he writes so well. It’s such an easy book to read, I can hear him in my head narrating as we go along. He must have documented everything because he has details on almost every conversation and phone call.

                            anyway, he is not even being vindicative with the Donald. He just describes the disarray. The impulsiveness. The lack of ooordination.

                            So far the real tragic figure in the book is Kelly. He tried so hard to make some order. Bolton himself seems to have been resigned to getting the hatchet from the first day.

                            Anyway, strongly recommended to both right and left of the aisle here. It’s Illuminating and very readable. Not like the trashy book fire and fury. This one is much much better. And not trashy or gossipy at all. Very erudite.

                            Oh and p.s. absolutely no state secrets revealed. That was such an obvious ploy by trump to try to prevent publication. So don’t expect to hear who the mole in the kremlin is.

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                            @bachophile said in What are you reading now?:

                            I know all you trumpets will hate me but I’m loving Bolton’s book. Halfway thru.

                            The reason is not that I’ve become a Bolton fan, he is quite fixated on his agenda.

                            But he writes so well. It’s such an easy book to read, I can hear him in my head narrating as we go along. He must have documented everything because he has details on almost every conversation and phone call.

                            anyway, he is not even being vindicative with the Donald. He just describes the disarray. The impulsiveness. The lack of ooordination.

                            So far the real tragic figure in the book is Kelly. He tried so hard to make some order. Bolton himself seems to have been resigned to getting the hatchet from the first day.

                            Anyway, strongly recommended to both right and left of the aisle here. It’s Illuminating and very readable. Not like the trashy book fire and fury. This one is much much better. And not trashy or gossipy at all. Very erudite.

                            Oh and p.s. absolutely no state secrets revealed. That was such an obvious ploy by trump to try to prevent publication. So don’t expect to hear who the mole in the kremlin is.

                            Nobody ever said the Trump White House is not chaotic or frenzied. I think that is just how the man operates. Nobody ever said Bolton was stupid, but I think most of us can agree he is very hawkish.

                            No matter who writes them, I've never cared for kiss and tell books. You ride for the brand that hired you.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              Yes, I'm a huge Scalzi fan. Several of his books are part of a series. @jolly recommended "Old Man's War." which was a real hard sci-fi story, focusing on military aspects of sci-fi. There are at least 4 more books in the series. One of them "Zoe's Tale" tells the same story as its predecessor, but from the viewpoint of a different character - an interesting approach.

                              He has just completed the final book of a trilogy ("The Collapsing Universe") that I've only read the first book of. I'm going to get the next two and do it in sequence.

                              "Lock-In" is a standalone novel about a detective who suffers a "lock-in" state because of a viral pandemic. Very creative. It has a sequel, but they're both pretty much standalone.

                              "Redshirts" is a take on "Star Trek:" What if Star Trek were real, and the characters knew they were part of an act?

                              "Fuzzy Nation" is, perhaps, the most light-hearted of his books. It has poignant scenes, funny stuff, and snappy, snappy dialog. I loved it.

                              Well, perhaps "Agent to the Stars" is the most light-hearted. Suppose that you're in an advertising agency, and your boss gives you a very, very unusual client. And you can't say anything about the client - yet. Loved it too.

                              So, for snappy, fast-paced, clever writing with witty dialog and creative and unusual stories, you can't do better than Scalzi. I owe Jolly for turning me on to him.

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                              @George-K said in What are you reading now?:

                              Yes, I'm a huge Scalzi fan. Several of his books are part of a series. @jolly recommended "Old Man's War." which was a real hard sci-fi story, focusing on military aspects of sci-fi. There are at least 4 more books in the series. One of them "Zoe's Tale" tells the same story as its predecessor, but from the viewpoint of a different character - an interesting approach.

                              He has just completed the final book of a trilogy ("The Collapsing Universe") that I've only read the first book of. I'm going to get the next two and do it in sequence.

                              "Lock-In" is a standalone novel about a detective who suffers a "lock-in" state because of a viral pandemic. Very creative. It has a sequel, but they're both pretty much standalone.

                              "Redshirts" is a take on "Star Trek:" What if Star Trek were real, and the characters knew they were part of an act?

                              "Fuzzy Nation" is, perhaps, the most light-hearted of his books. It has poignant scenes, funny stuff, and snappy, snappy dialog. I loved it.

                              Well, perhaps "Agent to the Stars" is the most light-hearted. Suppose that you're in an advertising agency, and your boss gives you a very, very unusual client. And you can't say anything about the client - yet. Loved it too.

                              So, for snappy, fast-paced, clever writing with witty dialog and creative and unusual stories, you can't do better than Scalzi. I owe Jolly for turning me on to him.

                              If you like the light foreign diplomat to the stars fare, look at the Retief series by Keith Laumer. The early stuff written before his stroke, is the best, as his writing suffered in later years.

                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jame_Retief

                              Most people know Laumer for his Bolo series of self-aware super-tanks.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Thanks, George. Thanks, Jolly.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Aqua or Other SciFi Fans:

                                  Found this long-ago bookmarked title: Fuzzy Nation: an extraordinary retelling of the SF classic Little Fuzzy. ZaraCorp holds the right to extract unlimited resources from the verdant planet Zarathustra—as long as the planet is certifiably free of native sentients. So when an outback prospector discovers a species of small, appealing bipeds who might well turn out to be intelligent, language-using beings, it's a race to stop the corporation from "eliminating the problem," which is to say, eliminating the Fuzzies—wide-eyed and ridiculously cute small, and furry—who are as much people as we are.

                                  It's written by John Scalzi. George, am I correct that you're a fan of his?

                                  Anyway, do y'all know this book? Is it a thing? Is it good?

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                                  @Catseye3 said in What are you reading now?:

                                  Aqua or Other SciFi Fans:

                                  Found this long-ago bookmarked title: Fuzzy Nation: an extraordinary retelling of the SF classic Little Fuzzy. ZaraCorp holds the right to extract unlimited resources from the verdant planet Zarathustra—as long as the planet is certifiably free of native sentients. So when an outback prospector discovers a species of small, appealing bipeds who might well turn out to be intelligent, language-using beings, it's a race to stop the corporation from "eliminating the problem," which is to say, eliminating the Fuzzies—wide-eyed and ridiculously cute small, and furry—who are as much people as we are.

                                  It's written by John Scalzi. George, am I correct that you're a fan of his?

                                  Anyway, do y'all know this book? Is it a thing? Is it good?

                                  It's a good modernization of a classic, yeah.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    Another Q for the SciFi folk. Do y'all know of the writer Greig Beck? His book Primordia? Any good?

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      Another Q for the SciFi folk. Do y'all know of the writer Greig Beck? His book Primordia? Any good?

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                                      @Catseye3 said in What are you reading now?:

                                      Another Q for the SciFi folk. Do y'all know of the writer Greig Beck? His book Primordia? Any good?

                                      No idea. Never heard of him.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                        Another Q for the SciFi folk. Do y'all know of the writer Greig Beck? His book Primordia? Any good?

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                                        @Catseye3 said in What are you reading now?:

                                        Another Q for the SciFi folk. Do y'all know of the writer Greig Beck? His book Primordia? Any good?

                                        hahah get the hell out of here! He visited my school during my Master's! Nice guy and an absolute nerd. Ironically I haven't read any of his stuff, though.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Fat lot of good y'all are.

                                          Here's the Amazon blurb: "Ben Cartwright, former soldier, home to mourn the loss of his father stumbles upon cryptic letters from the past between the author, Arthur Conan Doyle and his great, great grandfather who vanished while exploring the Amazon jungle in 1908.

                                          Amazingly, these letters lead Ben to believe that his ancestor’s expedition was the basis for Doyle’s fantastical tale of a lost world inhabited by long extinct creatures. As Ben digs some more he finds clues to the whereabouts of a lost notebook that might contain a map to a place that is home to creatures that would rewrite everything known about history, biology and evolution.

                                          But other parties now know about the notebook, and will do anything to obtain it. For Ben and his friends, it becomes a race against time and against ruthless rivals.

                                          In the remotest corners of Venezuela, along winding river trails known only to lost tribes, and through near impenetrable jungle, Ben and his novice team find a forbidden place more terrifying and dangerous than anything they could ever have imagined."

                                          Is naming the protagonist after the Ponderosa Daddy a nerdy thing to do?

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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