Hamas attacks Israel

[Horace]

@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

spending is limited to humanitarian purposes and the international community, including the US, has oversight of how they get spent

Someone, apparently, has a differing view of "oversight."

"Humanitarian" could easily mean "attack Israel" in that culture.

[George K]

I have no knowledge whether that $6B was fundamental in financing this attack, by the way, and I'm not claiming that it was.

Just that the Iranians seem to think they can do whatever they want with the money, despite what we're told.

Of course, why would we ever distrust the Iranians, right?

[Horace]

Not only is money fungible, different sources of money, allegedly siloed from one another, are also fungible. If a country produces just enough to feed itself, and gets a gift which is just enough to feed itself, it can use the gift to feed itself, and have its own production burning a hole in its pocket.

[George K]

What happened with Iron Dome?

I originally read that it was "overwhelmed." Now I'm seeing stories that it was "down." Was it purposefully disabled to allow the attacks?

[George K]

What does Israel hope to achieve?

Yes, he said that.

[Jolly]

I hope Israel is trying to kill people and break things.

[jon-nyc]

@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I have no knowledge whether that $6B was fundamental in financing this attack, by the way, and I'm not claiming that it was.

Just that the Iranians seem to think they can do whatever they want with the money, despite what we're told.

Of course, why would we ever distrust the Iranians, right?

Ironic, since you’re the one taking the ayatollah’s version of things over the public agreement between the West and Qatar.

While the fungibility argument could be made six months from now, there simply wasn’t time for there to be a causal connection between that money and this operation.

What I really find tedious though, is that so much of Magat Twitter didn’t even bother condemning Hamas, they fell straight into their Blame America First schtick.

[jon-nyc]

@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I’ve been all day in the hospital. Just returned. Back again early tomorrow. No time to respond here. But things are tense.

All my family are all ok.

Very glad to hear it. It must be stressful.

[George K]

I have a friend (urologist) who's in Israel right now. I asked him how things are, and he said, "We're in the North, and it's business as usual right now."

That was at 8AM Chicago time...

[jon-nyc]

@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

What happened with Iron Dome?

I originally read that it was "overwhelmed." Now I'm seeing stories that it was "down." Was it purposefully disabled to allow the attacks?

I read that too. I’m very curious.

[jon-nyc]

Interesting, when I Google iron dome failure I get old stories of it failing. Maybe it’s not that stable.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-technical-error-caused-iron-dome-to-malfunction-during-flare-up-with-gaza/#:~:text=An Israeli Air Force investigation,they landed in populated areas.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I have no knowledge whether that $6B was fundamental in financing this attack, by the way, and I'm not claiming that it was.

Just that the Iranians seem to think they can do whatever they want with the money, despite what we're told.

Of course, why would we ever distrust the Iranians, right?

Ironic, since you’re the one taking the ayatollah’s version of things over the public agreement between the West and Qatar.

While the fungibility argument could be made six months from now, there simply wasn’t time for there to be a causal connection between that money and this operation.

What I really find tedious though, is that so much of Magat Twitter didn’t even bother condemning Hamas, they fell straight into their Blame America First schtick.

Yes, they need to be deprogrammed.

[jon-nyc]

Apparently the system can be overwhelmed and they sent thousands of rockets.

[jon-nyc]

By the way, I wonder if/how Israeli retaliation will be affected by the fact that Hamas took all those hostages?

I’ve read dozens and even hundreds of hostages were taken. There doesn’t seem to be any clarity on that yet.

[jon-nyc]

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Apparently the system can be overwhelmed and they sent thousands of rockets.

Of course, there are other theories….

Be seeing you….

[George K]

"The Israeli Defense Force has Increased the number of Reservists that have been called to Active Service by roughly 80,000 with over 150,000 Reservists now having received Orders to Report for Duty."

[jon-nyc]

Gaza is 17sq miles, half the size of Naperville, IL.

150k soldiers? Are they planning a house to house search?

[Jolly]

Would that be a bad idea?

[jon-nyc]

Probably find a lot of rockets etc that way but probably few living hostages.

[George K]

Latest barrage targets Tel Aviv and Ashkelon.