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Hotels should enlarge hallways

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://nypost.com/2023/10/02/plus-size-influencer-calls-on-hotels-to-enlarge-hallways/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      #2

      lol

      Please love yourself.

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      • MikM Offline
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        #3

        'The whole world should accommodate me because I am out of the norm'.

        I'm a stout fellow and I've never seen a hotel hallway too small. I do endorse the hand held shower as that is what I like, but it has nothing to do with size. Free seats on a plane? Preposterous. Pay for your extra seat.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • MikM Mik

          'The whole world should accommodate me because I am out of the norm'.

          I'm a stout fellow and I've never seen a hotel hallway too small. I do endorse the hand held shower as that is what I like, but it has nothing to do with size. Free seats on a plane? Preposterous. Pay for your extra seat.

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          #4

          @Mik said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

          'The whole world should accommodate me because I am out of the norm'.

          What’s “the norm”? One to two sigmas from the mean? Three sigmas or even more?

          The world makes many accommodations for the blind, the deaf, the infirm, etc. There laws to accommodate them (e.g., the ADA). Statistically they are an even smaller minority (as a fraction of the general population) than the fat people, thus even further away from the norm. You gonna say to heck with the blind, the deaf, and the infirm, too?

          Heck, we ban peanuts for entire school district for one kid who has severe peanut allergy. That’s accommodation for a three or four sigma anomaly.

          Maybe it comes down to which conditions are results of voluntary choices, then we argue over whether being fat is a result of voluntary choices, and healthcare providers start issuing letters attesting that this or that patient’s obese condition is not due to voluntary choices.

          Free seats on a plane? Preposterous. Pay for your extra seat.

          I do wonder how the airline business would look like if passengers are charged extra for excess body weight by the pound. An airline that does this may get a lot of flack on social media but I suspect many customers will flock to such an airline thinking that they will have a lower probability of being seated next to a physically large person. :man-shrugging:

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            At what time should the needs/wants of a minority be the rules for the majority?

            I don't have a big problem with it as long as it does not negatively effect the majority.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              At what time should the needs/wants of a minority be the rules for the majority?

              I don't have a big problem with it as long as it does not negatively effect the majority.

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              @taiwan_girl said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

              At what time should the needs/wants of a minority be the rules for the majority?

              I don't have a big problem with it as long as it does not negatively affect the majority.

              If demands are "bigger seats on airplanes" and "bigger hallways in hotels," the winners are all airline and hotel customers (the majority), the losers are the airline companies and hotels' stock holders/proprietors (the minority, assuming they cannot pass the additional costs on to their customers).

              Otherwise the additional costs get spread around to all customers, each of us pay "just a little bit more" to accommodate certain groups of minorities. But that's fairly typical how modern society bear the costs of accommodating the minorities (think the ADA, all the accommodations for the blind, the deaf, and the infirm).

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @taiwan_girl said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

                At what time should the needs/wants of a minority be the rules for the majority?

                I don't have a big problem with it as long as it does not negatively affect the majority.

                If demands are "bigger seats on airplanes" and "bigger hallways in hotels," the winners are all airline and hotel customers (the majority), the losers are the airline companies and hotels' stock holders/proprietors (the minority, assuming they cannot pass the additional costs on to their customers).

                Otherwise the additional costs get spread around to all customers, each of us pay "just a little bit more" to accommodate certain groups of minorities. But that's fairly typical how modern society bear the costs of accommodating the minorities (think the ADA, all the accommodations for the blind, the deaf, and the infirm).

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                @Axtremus said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

                If demands are "bigger seats on airplanes" and "bigger hallways in hotels," the winners are all airline and hotel customers (the majority), the losers are the airline companies and hotels' stock holders/proprietors (the minority, assuming they cannot pass the additional costs on to their customers).

                If they can pass the costs on, then the customers are not the winners.

                If they cannot, then there costs could go up so that they eventually go out of business or decrease flights on certain routes.

                To me, it comes down to common sense. I am not yet convinced that overweight is a disability the same as being blind, missing a leg or two, etc.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  She said she is “on a mission to revolutionize the travel industry, and make it a more accessible, accepting, accommodating, and expensive place for all,”

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    I just pushed a fully loaded luggage cart past a loaded housekeeping cart through a hotel hallway. If you need more space than that to get through, you have bigger problems, indeed.

                    The Brad

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      #10

                      Why stop at overweight people? I don't like having somebody sitting next to me. I demand a free empty seat, too.

                      In fact, I don't really like paying for flights. Both seats should be free. Make travel more accessible to people who have a really hard time managing their money!

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #11

                        Honestly someone that big should walk or swim to her destination anyway.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @Axtremus said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

                          If demands are "bigger seats on airplanes" and "bigger hallways in hotels," the winners are all airline and hotel customers (the majority), the losers are the airline companies and hotels' stock holders/proprietors (the minority, assuming they cannot pass the additional costs on to their customers).

                          If they can pass the costs on, then the customers are not the winners.

                          If they cannot, then there costs could go up so that they eventually go out of business or decrease flights on certain routes.

                          To me, it comes down to common sense. I am not yet convinced that overweight is a disability the same as being blind, missing a leg or two, etc.

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                          @taiwan_girl said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

                          To me, it comes down to common sense.

                          Ok to start with "common sense," but don't stop there. Try to get to a point where you can articulate a coherent policy and be able to defend it. 🙂

                          I am not yet convinced that overweight is a disability the same as being blind, missing a leg or two, etc.

                          I suspect many agree with you. I mentioned disabilities because I expect advocates for the overweight/obese to argue that way.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Honestly someone that big should walk or swim to her destination anyway.

                            MikM Offline
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                            @jon-nyc said in Hotels should enlarge hallways:

                            Honestly someone that big should walk or swim to her destination anyway.

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                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              Gutfeld:

                              "In response to her complaint, a spokesman for a national hotel chain suggested that she stay in Motel 12."

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Snort.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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