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Another measure of reopening

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Elon tweeted this. Shows their supercharging station use as a percentage of pre-Covid max. North America just returned to it’s pretty-Covid high.

    D03308EC-D792-4477-9261-8F1583762076.jpeg

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Speaking of tesla, the stock has risen about 8x in the past year, from a low of around 150 to about 1200 now.

      Education is extremely important.

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        The shorts have to be experiencing unimaginable pain. I’d imagine most have turned tail and are licking their wounds.

        What are you seeing on message boards?

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          I don't read stock boards about Tesla but I listen to some podcasts. The most thoughtful Tesla doubters have long since thrown in the towel on the stock price. They continue to point at the business numbers and laugh though.

          Education is extremely important.

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            In Southeast Ohio coming home Thursday I saw a Tesla. It had one of those trailer hitch shelfs on the back. On it was a generator and a 10 gallon gas can. I'm thinking charging stations are kind of scarce down there. 😆

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

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                @Jolly said in Another measure of reopening:

                I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

                A few years ago, there was a big controversy as to whether Teslas are actually "greener" than traditional gas engines. When you consider the ecologic cost of generating electricity, most of which comes from coal in the US, you have to question the thinking.

                Is that still the case? The Teslerati say it's not, but I wonder.

                Yeah, hydrogen.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  @Jolly said in Another measure of reopening:

                  I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

                  A few years ago, there was a big controversy as to whether Teslas are actually "greener" than traditional gas engines. When you consider the ecologic cost of generating electricity, most of which comes from coal in the US, you have to question the thinking.

                  Is that still the case? The Teslerati say it's not, but I wonder.

                  Yeah, hydrogen.

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                  @George-K said in Another measure of reopening:

                  @Jolly said in Another measure of reopening:

                  I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

                  A few years ago, there was a big controversy as to whether Teslas are actually "greener" than traditional gas engines. When you consider the ecologic cost of generating electricity, most of which comes from coal in the US, you have to question the thinking.

                  Is that still the case? The Teslerati say it's not, but I wonder.

                  Yeah, hydrogen.

                  Don't forget the energy involved in creating the batteries or the problem with disposing of them.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

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                    @Jolly said in Another measure of reopening:

                    I still think Bush43 was right. To me, hydrogen makes a lot more sense as a fuel of the future than batteries.

                    https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/5-fast-facts-about-hydrogen-and-fuel-cells

                    Similar to today’s gasoline vehicles, fuel cell electric cars can have a driving range of more than 300 miles on one tank of hydrogen fuel. They can refuel in just a few minutes and the fueling experience is almost identical to a gas station. Since the “engine” (i.e., fuel cell) has no moving parts, you’ll never need to change the oil. But because a fuel cell is more than twice as efficient as an internal combustion engine, a fuel cell car travels farther on that tank of hydrogen than a traditional car would on gasoline. This means you only need about half the amount of hydrogen, with double the fuel economy.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      It could be as simple as hydrogen has no Elon Musk.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I don't read stock boards about Tesla but I listen to some podcasts. The most thoughtful Tesla doubters have long since thrown in the towel on the stock price. They continue to point at the business numbers and laugh though.

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                        @Horace said in Another measure of reopening:

                        The most thoughtful Tesla doubters have long since thrown in the towel on the stock price. They continue to point at the business numbers and laugh though.

                        Like Jeremy Corbyn saying he lost the election but he won the conversation.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          The fundamentals of a business establish a floor for the stock price, but that’s about it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            You say that as if the fundamentals are agreed upon.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              I like P/E as such a price floor, as long as the E is stable and predictable. If a company can buy itself in a few years, and proceeds to try to do so, the stock price can't help but go up.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Elon tweeted this. Shows their supercharging station use as a percentage of pre-Covid max. North America just returned to it’s pretty-Covid high.

                                D03308EC-D792-4477-9261-8F1583762076.jpeg

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                                @jon-nyc said in Another measure of reopening:

                                Elon tweeted this. Shows their supercharging station use as a percentage of pre-Covid max. North America just returned to it’s pretty-Covid high.

                                D03308EC-D792-4477-9261-8F1583762076.jpeg

                                I am surprised the APAC did not drop very much during the high point of the virus, but maybe the amount of Teslas on the road is quite small.

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