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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #3

    Jesus

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #4

      Any update?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Any update?

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        George K
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        #5

        @LuFins-Dad speculation is fentanyl. A couple were given naloxone, and one "multiple doses."

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/16/nyregion/bronx-daycare-child-death.html

        Nicholas Dominici, who would have turned 2 in November, was pronounced dead at Montefiore Medical Center on Friday. By early Saturday, the other three children were in critical or stable condition, and the police were questioning a person after discovering equipment typically used by drug dealers on the premises.

        Nicholas’s death brought together two crises that afflict New York and the nation at large: working parents’ desperate hunt for affordable, dependable child care and the scourge of opioids such as fentanyl, which contributed to about 75,000 overdose deaths in the United States last year. The Bronx has been hit particularly hard by the drug, which can kill in minute quantities.

        “This crisis is real, and it is a real wake‑up call for individuals who have opioids or fentanyl in their homes,” Mayor Eric Adams said at a briefing just after midnight.

        On Saturday, at least one person was in police custody and being questioned, according to the police. After an autopsy on Saturday, the New York City medical examiner’s office said further examination was needed to determine Nicholas’s cause of death. The police did not name the person or people whom they had in custody on Saturday.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #6

          One arrest made.

          https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/nicholas-dominici-bronx-day-care-1-year-old-death-parents-speak/

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            Fentanyl is poorly absorbed from the GI tract, which is why most users prefer to crush it and then either snort it or apply it to a mucus membrane.

            That's not to say that it's NOT absorbed from the stomach - to get a clinical effect, you'd have to ingest a LOT of it. But, given the size of the victims, what might be enough for an adult to get high off of, could well be enough to kill.

            All the articles say that the were given naloxone, but I'm not sure they say that it was effective. If it was, it sure sounds like an opioid-related event.

            OTOH, there are other, popular, opioids (oxycodone, and even morphine) that are well-absorbed by the stomach.

            The autopsy and toxicology of the survivors should be revealing.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
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              https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/1-baby-dead-3-kids-hospitalized-fentanyl-exposure-new-york-city-daycar-rcna105474

              A man and a woman have been arrested on murder charges after a 1-year-old died and three other children were hospitalized following suspected exposure to opioids at a Bronx day care center Friday, police said.

              In addition to the murder charges, Carlisto Acevedo Brito, 41, and Grei Mendez, 36, were arrested Saturday night on multiple counts of manslaughter, assault, criminal possession of a controlled substance and narcotic drug and endangering the welfare of a child after Nicholas Dominici died and three other kids were hospitalized after being exposed to fentanyl at the day care center.

              Brito and Mendez's relationship to the day care center was not immediately apparent, and police did not immediately respond to a question seeking clarification.

              It was also not immediately clear whether Brito and Mendez have lawyers who could speak on their behalf.

              A spokesperson for the New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner said Nicholas's cause and manner of death was under investigation.

              Police said the 911 call came in just after 2:40 p.m. on Friday. Officers discovered Dominici unconscious and unresponsive, and he was pronounced dead at Montefiore Medical Center upon arrival.

              Upon executing a search warrant at the day care, NYPD officials found a "kilo press," which Kenny described as an item "commonly used by drug dealers when packaging large quantities of drugs."

              The day care center was licensed by the state and was last inspected by officials with the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene on Sept. 9, according to Kenny and Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Commissioner Ashwin Vasan, who said that no violations were found at that time, and that it was a surprise inspection that the day care officials did not have advance notice of.

              Vasan said that the day care center was a home-based center that opened in January, and that it had had two routine inspections early on to secure its license.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/1-baby-dead-3-kids-hospitalized-fentanyl-exposure-new-york-city-daycar-rcna105474

                A man and a woman have been arrested on murder charges after a 1-year-old died and three other children were hospitalized following suspected exposure to opioids at a Bronx day care center Friday, police said.

                In addition to the murder charges, Carlisto Acevedo Brito, 41, and Grei Mendez, 36, were arrested Saturday night on multiple counts of manslaughter, assault, criminal possession of a controlled substance and narcotic drug and endangering the welfare of a child after Nicholas Dominici died and three other kids were hospitalized after being exposed to fentanyl at the day care center.

                Brito and Mendez's relationship to the day care center was not immediately apparent, and police did not immediately respond to a question seeking clarification.

                It was also not immediately clear whether Brito and Mendez have lawyers who could speak on their behalf.

                A spokesperson for the New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner said Nicholas's cause and manner of death was under investigation.

                Police said the 911 call came in just after 2:40 p.m. on Friday. Officers discovered Dominici unconscious and unresponsive, and he was pronounced dead at Montefiore Medical Center upon arrival.

                Upon executing a search warrant at the day care, NYPD officials found a "kilo press," which Kenny described as an item "commonly used by drug dealers when packaging large quantities of drugs."

                The day care center was licensed by the state and was last inspected by officials with the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene on Sept. 9, according to Kenny and Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Commissioner Ashwin Vasan, who said that no violations were found at that time, and that it was a surprise inspection that the day care officials did not have advance notice of.

                Vasan said that the day care center was a home-based center that opened in January, and that it had had two routine inspections early on to secure its license.

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                @George-K said in A Death in Daycare:

                home-based center

                AH okay, so it was in somebody's house. Does not make it any better, but I could understand how it could happen more clearly.

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                  George K
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                  I'm hopeful that the autopsy and toxicology reports will be informative.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #11

                    They both face murder charges in NY and now narcotics charges from the Feds.

                    They kept a kilo of fentanyl on the nap mats.

                    https://abcnews.go.com/US/bronx-day-care-operator-tenant-facing-federal-charges/story?id=103312745

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      They both face murder charges in NY and now narcotics charges from the Feds.

                      They kept a kilo of fentanyl on the nap mats.

                      https://abcnews.go.com/US/bronx-day-care-operator-tenant-facing-federal-charges/story?id=103312745

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @jon-nyc said in A Death in Daycare:

                      They both face murder charges in NY and now narcotics charges from the Feds.

                      They kept a kilo of fentanyl on the nap mats.

                      https://abcnews.go.com/US/bronx-day-care-operator-tenant-facing-federal-charges/story?id=103312745

                      That's a boatload of fentanyl.

                      But...fentanyl is not absorbed through the skin. And gastric absorption is poor, though enough might do the trick.

                      How'd it get into the kids?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                      • George KG George K

                        @jon-nyc said in A Death in Daycare:

                        They both face murder charges in NY and now narcotics charges from the Feds.

                        They kept a kilo of fentanyl on the nap mats.

                        https://abcnews.go.com/US/bronx-day-care-operator-tenant-facing-federal-charges/story?id=103312745

                        That's a boatload of fentanyl.

                        But...fentanyl is not absorbed through the skin. And gastric absorption is poor, though enough might do the trick.

                        How'd it get into the kids?

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #13

                        @George-K said in A Death in Daycare:

                        @jon-nyc said in A Death in Daycare:

                        They both face murder charges in NY and now narcotics charges from the Feds.

                        They kept a kilo of fentanyl on the nap mats.

                        https://abcnews.go.com/US/bronx-day-care-operator-tenant-facing-federal-charges/story?id=103312745

                        That's a boatload of fentanyl.

                        But...fentanyl is not absorbed through the skin. And gastric absorption is poor, though enough might do the trick.

                        How'd it get into the kids?

                        If it was on the mats, they could have licked residue.

                        I trust it’s Murder 2?

                        The Brad

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