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  • HoraceH Horace

    Rodgers out for the season with an achilles tear.

    And this means the Packers don't get a first round pick next year, because that was contingent on Rodgers playing 65% of the snaps. Yep this is why it sucks to be a football fan. For both the Packers and Jets now. One play, four plays into the season.

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    @Horace said in Four plays and out:

    Rodgers out for the season with an achilles tear.

    And this means the Packers don't get a first round pick next year, because that was contingent on Rodgers playing 65% of the snaps. Yep this is why it sucks to be a football fan. For both the Packers and Jets now. One play, four plays into the season.

    How is that different for fans of Baseball? Basketball? Soccer? Gymnastics?

    Hell, it goes well beyond sports… How about music? Any of our favorite pianists can injure their hands tomorrow. It happens more often than you think. Tyler from Aerosmith just had to cancel the farewell tour because of damage to his vocal chords… Aging performer that can’t continue any more due to injury… Sucks for the fans…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @Mik said in Four plays and out:

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      Snort…

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

      @Mik said in Four plays and out:

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      Snort…

      Cold, isn't it?

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • George KG George K

        As someone who has had an achilles tendon injury, I can tell you that it'll never be the same. My injury caused me to walk, just a little different because of the weakness on that side. That "different" walk caused a bit of scoliosis about 10 years later, and back issues 10 years after that.

        I wonder if they'll do a surgical repair or let it heal while immobilized.

        Have other athletes recovered to their pre-injury level of play after something like this?

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        @George-K said in Four plays and out:

        As someone who has had an achilles tendon injury, I can tell you that it'll never be the same. My injury caused me to walk, just a little different because of the weakness on that side. That "different" walk caused a bit of scoliosis about 10 years later, and back issues 10 years after that.

        I wonder if they'll do a surgical repair or let it heal while immobilized.

        Have other athletes recovered to their pre-injury level of play after something like this?

        They have. It takes about a year and most players do not regain the power if their first step. The Saints drafted a DT high in the first round. He was a bit injury-prone, suffering a broken leg, but his main injury was an achilles.

        He's still in the league, but he's not been the disruptive force he could have been. As a young player, he came off the ball with exceptional quickness and penetration.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Rankins

        In Aaron's case, the guy is almost 40. At best, he only had this year and maybe one or two more. I suspect this is the end of his career.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Horace said in Four plays and out:

          Rodgers out for the season with an achilles tear.

          And this means the Packers don't get a first round pick next year, because that was contingent on Rodgers playing 65% of the snaps. Yep this is why it sucks to be a football fan. For both the Packers and Jets now. One play, four plays into the season.

          How is that different for fans of Baseball? Basketball? Soccer? Gymnastics?

          Hell, it goes well beyond sports… How about music? Any of our favorite pianists can injure their hands tomorrow. It happens more often than you think. Tyler from Aerosmith just had to cancel the farewell tour because of damage to his vocal chords… Aging performer that can’t continue any more due to injury… Sucks for the fans…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

          @Horace said in Four plays and out:

          Rodgers out for the season with an achilles tear.

          And this means the Packers don't get a first round pick next year, because that was contingent on Rodgers playing 65% of the snaps. Yep this is why it sucks to be a football fan. For both the Packers and Jets now. One play, four plays into the season.

          How is that different for fans of Baseball? Basketball? Soccer? Gymnastics?

          Hell, it goes well beyond sports… How about music? Any of our favorite pianists can injure their hands tomorrow. It happens more often than you think. Tyler from Aerosmith just had to cancel the farewell tour because of damage to his vocal chords… Aging performer that can’t continue any more due to injury… Sucks for the fans…

          It seems like it happens constantly in the NFL. For baseball fans, I don't think they have to deal with their favorite players missing games and seasons due to injury, nearly as much.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            Oh, they do. You’re probably right about not as often as football.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

              Another aspect that’s compelling is
              To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

              Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

                Another aspect that’s compelling is
                To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

                Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

                While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

                Another aspect that’s compelling is
                To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

                Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

                If any Jets fan came away from the game last night with more interest and enjoyment from their fandom because of the random injury setback, my hat's off to them. I think that is a rare sort of fan though.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

                  While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

                  Another aspect that’s compelling is
                  To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

                  Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

                  If any Jets fan came away from the game last night with more interest and enjoyment from their fandom because of the random injury setback, my hat's off to them. I think that is a rare sort of fan though.

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                  @Horace said in Four plays and out:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

                  While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

                  Another aspect that’s compelling is
                  To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

                  Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

                  If any Jets fan came away from the game last night with more interest and enjoyment from their fandom because of the random injury setback, my hat's off to them. I think that is a rare sort of fan though.

                  Not more not less. Do you believe that the vast majority of Jet fans weren’t Jet fans before Aaron Rodgers? Do you think many will abandon their interest with Rogers out? And I’ll say this, they weren’t sitting on their hands moping while that kid ran back that punt in overtime… They were fully into it… It’s about the team…

                  The Brad

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                    Trust Olbermann to stay classy and relevant…

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Horace said in Four plays and out:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

                      While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

                      Another aspect that’s compelling is
                      To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

                      Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

                      If any Jets fan came away from the game last night with more interest and enjoyment from their fandom because of the random injury setback, my hat's off to them. I think that is a rare sort of fan though.

                      Not more not less. Do you believe that the vast majority of Jet fans weren’t Jet fans before Aaron Rodgers? Do you think many will abandon their interest with Rogers out? And I’ll say this, they weren’t sitting on their hands moping while that kid ran back that punt in overtime… They were fully into it… It’s about the team…

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

                      @Horace said in Four plays and out:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Four plays and out:

                      While no fan wants to see their favorite players injured, it is a part of the game and often times can be the most compelling parts of the game… Ben Roethlisberger coming off the bench with a badly injured shoulder to lead a final scoring drive to win a playoff game… Drew Brees coming back from a shoulder that would have ended many other players careers only to go on and have a potential HOF career…

                      Another aspect that’s compelling is
                      To see somebody else rise up when the starter is injured… Cam Heyward (one of my favorites) went down with groin injury Sunday. That hurts. A lot… But the rookie DL that replaced him played a respectable game. That raises my interest considerably. I want Cam back, but I also want to see if this rookie takes advantage of the opportunity before him.

                      Of course, it could be that we see it differently because my fandom is more about the team and not one particular player…

                      If any Jets fan came away from the game last night with more interest and enjoyment from their fandom because of the random injury setback, my hat's off to them. I think that is a rare sort of fan though.

                      Not more not less. Do you believe that the vast majority of Jet fans weren’t Jet fans before Aaron Rodgers? Do you think many will abandon their interest with Rogers out? And I’ll say this, they weren’t sitting on their hands moping while that kid ran back that punt in overtime… They were fully into it… It’s about the team…

                      Well the Jets invested a huge amount of resources into a player they'll get nothing out of this season. Personally that would disappoint me and make me enjoy the whole process of fandom a bit less. Over time I decided the random dice rolls where your team got decimated weekly, brought me under the threshold for enjoying the whole process. But, people differ.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Trust Olbermann to stay classy and relevant…

                        MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        @LuFins-Dad Olberman is an ass.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Screenshot 2023-09-13 at 11.48.37 AM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Jets lose, you win!

                                The Brad

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                                  😆

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                                    This has been brought up by some folks...Would this have been an Achilles injury if the field would have been natural turf?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      This has been brought up by some folks...Would this have been an Achilles injury if the field would have been natural turf?

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                                      @Jolly said in Four plays and out:

                                      This has been brought up by some folks...Would this have been an Achilles injury if the field would have been natural turf?

                                      Good question. I seem to remember reading something about fake turf being more dangerous.

                                      https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36243906/nflpa-new-injury-data-shows-grass-significantly-safer-turf

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Screenshot 2023-09-13 at 5.14.41 PM.png

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Somebody's being doing their own research

                                          I was only joking

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