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A Vanishing Breed

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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    No way you could ever pay me enough. Not in this climate.

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      No way you could ever pay me enough. Not in this climate.

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      @Aqua-Letifer said in A Vanishing Breed:

      No way you could ever pay me enough. Not in this climate.

      My son taught one year. He know makes 3x the money with half the headaches. teaching is a rewarding job, but the current juice ain't worth the squeeze.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #5

        I thought US teachers were pretty well paid, no?

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #6

          Not down here.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            I thought US teachers were pretty well paid, no?

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
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            #7

            @taiwan_girl said in A Vanishing Breed:

            I thought US teachers were pretty well paid, no?

            Compared to what?

            Please love yourself.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              A US public school teacher’s salary translates to about 12,104 Big Mac sandwiches a year.
              A Thai public school teachers’ salary translates to about 3,258 Big Mac sandwiches a year.

              It looks like the average US public school teacher makes almost 4x more than the average Thai public school teacher after accounting for currency exchange rate and purchase power parity.

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                I started teaching at highschool in 1981, retired in 2022. Net income when I retired was appr. 2750€/month.
                Wages depend on degree (bachelor/master) and grade you're teaching in.
                Loved teaching and interacting with pupils/students. Hated the ever growing interference of authorities and parents.
                Enjoying my retirement now 😎

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  I am so glad I decided not to teach. I qualified to teach high school maths in 1987. As I finished my tutor asked "Are you really sure you want to do this?" - I was pretty awful at it, and we both knew it.

                  So I bummed around Europe for a month, and decided that no, I didn't want to do it.

                  I was only joking

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    A US public school teacher’s salary translates to about 12,104 Big Mac sandwiches a year.
                    A Thai public school teachers’ salary translates to about 3,258 Big Mac sandwiches a year.

                    It looks like the average US public school teacher makes almost 4x more than the average Thai public school teacher after accounting for currency exchange rate and purchase power parity.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #11

                    @Axtremus said in A Vanishing Breed:

                    A US public school teacher’s salary translates to about 12,104 Big Mac sandwiches a year.
                    A Thai public school teachers’ salary translates to about 3,258 Big Mac sandwiches a year.

                    It looks like the average US public school teacher makes almost 4x more than the average Thai public school teacher after accounting for currency exchange rate and purchase power parity.

                    THree cheers for The Economist's Big Mac Index (BMI?). Fun, but has limitations just like the other BMI.

                    I do love that the Big Mac Index, at least in the 90s, had predictive power over future exchange rate movements. Im sure they've been arbitraged away by now.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      Increasing teacher salary is good, but where does the money come from?

                      The below was interesting, and I did not know it.

                      QUOTE
                      How does teacher salary compare with the average worker’s salary in each state?

                      While average teacher pay ranges from around $48,000 in Mississippi to around $88,000 in New York, teachers are paid less than the average employee in nearly every state. Hawaii is the only state where the average teacher pay is higher than the average pay across all professions. Given that just 38.7% of US earners have a bachelor’s degree, the below-average pay of teachers is particularly notable.
                      UNQUOTE

                      https://usafacts.org/articles/teachers-in-the-us-face-low-pay-relative-to-their-level-of-education/

                      On the positive side for teachers, is that (I believe) that most states still give them a pension. And another positive is that most are on a ten month schedule, right? They have the two months off in the summer?

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                        Beware the average. It's not always right. You want to hone in on classroom teachers. Education has picked up a lot of middle management flotsam in the last few decades.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          Increasing teacher salary is good, but where does the money come from?

                          The below was interesting, and I did not know it.

                          QUOTE
                          How does teacher salary compare with the average worker’s salary in each state?

                          While average teacher pay ranges from around $48,000 in Mississippi to around $88,000 in New York, teachers are paid less than the average employee in nearly every state. Hawaii is the only state where the average teacher pay is higher than the average pay across all professions. Given that just 38.7% of US earners have a bachelor’s degree, the below-average pay of teachers is particularly notable.
                          UNQUOTE

                          https://usafacts.org/articles/teachers-in-the-us-face-low-pay-relative-to-their-level-of-education/

                          On the positive side for teachers, is that (I believe) that most states still give them a pension. And another positive is that most are on a ten month schedule, right? They have the two months off in the summer?

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                          @taiwan_girl said in A Vanishing Breed:

                          On the positive side for teachers, is that (I believe) that most states still give them a pension. And another positive is that most are on a ten month schedule, right? They have the two months off in the summer?

                          Yeah. They have those two months off. 😄

                          Please love yourself.

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