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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #20

    Well, OK, then:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/31/mcconnell-freezes-doctor-letter/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

    McConnell ‘medically clear’ to do job, says attending physician to Congress

    “I have consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team,” Brian P. Monahan, the attending physician to Congress, said in a statement Thursday. “After evaluating yesterday’s incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he is medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned.”
    Monahan added: “Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as a result of dehydration.” He referred to an incident in early March in which McConnell fell and suffered a concussion and a broken rib at a private dinner at a Washington hotel. The Kentucky Republican was absent from the Senate for nearly six weeks as he recovered from his injuries. He returned to the Senate in April.

    On Wednesday, McConnell appeared to freeze for more than 20 seconds while taking questions from reporters after an event in Covington, Ky. A spokesman for McConnell said afterward that the Republican leader “felt momentarily lightheaded and paused during his press conference.” The episode was similar to one in July, in which McConnell froze mid-sentence at a news conference at the Capitol, and had to be escorted away.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #21

      Trust the science.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
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        #22

        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/31/gop-senators-mcconnell-freeze-up-00113610

        A handful of GOP senators are weighing whether to force a fraught internal debate about their leadership’s future after Mitch McConnell’s second public freeze-up in a month.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #23

          Much has been made of Fetterman's disability. I'm still not convinced that he has cognitive dysfunction, rather than the inability to speak clearly.

          But, look at how Diane Feinstein was treated. She's clearly not all there.

          Time for her, and McConnell to step down.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Much has been made of Fetterman's disability. I'm still not convinced that he has cognitive dysfunction, rather than the inability to speak clearly.

            But, look at how Diane Feinstein was treated. She's clearly not all there.

            Time for her, and McConnell to step down.

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            #24

            @George-K I am not "close to the action" but I really haven't seen much difference between the way Sen. Feinstein and Sen McConnell have been treated. Seems like their problems have been talked about.

            Now, Sen Fienstein was hidden away from the public for a couple of months, but there are plenty of videos/articles out there when she had to be prompted by her aides, didn't understand the question, looked lost, etc.

            One difference is that her aides do not let her speak by herself. She is never in a position to do a news conference, answer any questions from reporters, etc.

            Sen Fienstein - a couple of Democrats have said she should resign. Majority stand by her
            Sen McConnell - a couple of Republics have said she should resign (actually I dont think this has happened). Majority (or all) stand by him.

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            • George KG George K

              Well, OK, then:

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/31/mcconnell-freezes-doctor-letter/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

              McConnell ‘medically clear’ to do job, says attending physician to Congress

              “I have consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team,” Brian P. Monahan, the attending physician to Congress, said in a statement Thursday. “After evaluating yesterday’s incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he is medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned.”
              Monahan added: “Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as a result of dehydration.” He referred to an incident in early March in which McConnell fell and suffered a concussion and a broken rib at a private dinner at a Washington hotel. The Kentucky Republican was absent from the Senate for nearly six weeks as he recovered from his injuries. He returned to the Senate in April.

              On Wednesday, McConnell appeared to freeze for more than 20 seconds while taking questions from reporters after an event in Covington, Ky. A spokesman for McConnell said afterward that the Republican leader “felt momentarily lightheaded and paused during his press conference.” The episode was similar to one in July, in which McConnell froze mid-sentence at a news conference at the Capitol, and had to be escorted away.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #25

              @George-K said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

              Well, OK, then:

              Monahan added: “Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as a result of dehydration.”

              Neurologists weigh in:

              “If I gave that tape to a medical student and that was his explanation, I’d fail him,”

              https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/health/mitch-mcconnell-health-seizures.html

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #26

                Same could be said for Fetterman.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #27

                  I don’t think fetterman has ever claimed “light headedness” to be his issue.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @George-K said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                    Well, OK, then:

                    Monahan added: “Occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as a result of dehydration.”

                    Neurologists weigh in:

                    “If I gave that tape to a medical student and that was his explanation, I’d fail him,”

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/health/mitch-mcconnell-health-seizures.html

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #28

                    @jon-nyc my "Well, OK, then" comment was not intended to convey that I agree.

                    THere's something seriously wrong there.

                    Was it a petit-mal seizure?

                    Of course, without a full and detailed examination and some imaging, it's difficult to say from a 30 second video.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I don’t think fetterman has ever claimed “light headedness” to be his issue.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #29

                      @jon-nyc said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                      I don’t think fetterman has ever claimed “light headedness” to be his issue.

                      Yet, I think we are talking about the same thing, cognitive abilities. Whether it be McConnel, Feinstein or Fetterman. Or even Biden.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #30

                        Fetterman's inability to express his thoughts does not necessarily mean that he doesn't have cogent, coherent thoughts.

                        But, afaik, he's never been evaluated for that. I think all we have is a statement (or two) by his docs saying that he's fit.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @jon-nyc my "Well, OK, then" comment was not intended to convey that I agree.

                          THere's something seriously wrong there.

                          Was it a petit-mal seizure?

                          Of course, without a full and detailed examination and some imaging, it's difficult to say from a 30 second video.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #31

                          @George-K Oh, I know you weren’t.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #32

                            Rand Paul's not buying the "dehydration" explanation.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/rand-paul-disagrees-with-capitol-physician-on-mcconnell-freeze-doesnt-look-like-dehydration/ar-AA1glLwQ

                            “I’ve practiced medicine for 25 years, and it doesn’t look like dehydration to me,” Paul told a group of reporters. “It looks like a focal neurologic event. That doesn’t mean it’s incapacitating, doesn’t mean he can’t serve. But it means that somebody ought to wake up and say, ‘Wow, this looks like a seizure.’”

                            McConnell has experienced two freezing incidents this summer. The most recent occurred in Covington, Kentucky, when the senator trailed off and stared into the distance for nearly 30 seconds. He was led away after the incident, but he was cleared to return to normal activities later in the day. Monahan determined at the time that the incident was partly because of a concussion McConnell experienced in March and partly because of dehydration.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nycJ Offline
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                              #33

                              Maybe he seized with dehydration instead of of dehydration.

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

                              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Maybe he seized with dehydration instead of of dehydration.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #34

                                @jon-nyc said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                Maybe he seized with dehydration instead of of dehydration.

                                By the way, a neurology teacher I had would rip your head off if you said a patient "seized." For him the correct term was "convulsed." You can have a seizure, have a convulsion, but if you "seize" you're grabbing something.

                                Sorta like the distinction between "hemorrhage" and "bleed."

                                But...

                                IMG_3358.jpg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
                                  jon-nycJ Offline
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #35

                                  Lol

                                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @jon-nyc said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                    Maybe he seized with dehydration instead of of dehydration.

                                    By the way, a neurology teacher I had would rip your head off if you said a patient "seized." For him the correct term was "convulsed." You can have a seizure, have a convulsion, but if you "seize" you're grabbing something.

                                    Sorta like the distinction between "hemorrhage" and "bleed."

                                    But...

                                    IMG_3358.jpg

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @George-K said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                    @jon-nyc said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                    Maybe he seized with dehydration instead of of dehydration.

                                    By the way, a neurology teacher I had would rip your head off if you said a patient "seized." For him the correct term was "convulsed." You can have a seizure, have a convulsion, but if you "seize" you're grabbing something.

                                    Sorta like the distinction between "hemorrhage" and "bleed."

                                    He and I could hang.

                                    Please love yourself.

                                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @George-K said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                      @jon-nyc said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                      Maybe he seized with dehydration instead of of dehydration.

                                      By the way, a neurology teacher I had would rip your head off if you said a patient "seized." For him the correct term was "convulsed." You can have a seizure, have a convulsion, but if you "seize" you're grabbing something.

                                      Sorta like the distinction between "hemorrhage" and "bleed."

                                      He and I could hang.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #37

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                      He and I could hang.

                                      When I posted this, I thought of you, LOL.

                                      Hemorrhage - noun.
                                      Bleed - verb.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #38

                                        Words morph. They mean what the speaker and the listener mutually understand. Doc in the ED last weekend said the patient was seizing. I knew what he meant.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Words morph. They mean what the speaker and the listener mutually understand. Doc in the ED last weekend said the patient was seizing. I knew what he meant.

                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          @Jolly said in McConnell freezes up again at news conference:

                                          Words morph. They mean what the speaker and the listener mutually understand. Doc in the ED last weekend said the patient was seizing. I knew what he meant.

                                          They do, and different situations call for different levels of pedantry. I wouldn't get on his case for that.

                                          But let's face it, "language changes, man" is mostly code for "I'm not careful with how I express myself and don't even know how."

                                          Please love yourself.

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