Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...
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I'm not an epidemiologist, so I can't really comment on risk. Ask me a question about pharmacology or physiology and I'm in my wheelhouse.
As to Florida, I disagree with the policy about "religious exemptions" if that, indeed is what it really is and what exemptions are permitted.
And, NYC states "the goal" is to get them vaccinated. A noble goal. I wonder how it will work out, eventually.
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From the article:
“… students in temporary housing, they do not need to show proof of vaccination in order to enter school,” the official said. “However, we are working with our partners … to get the students vaccinated.”
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The official noted that the goal is to have migrant children fully up-to-date on their vaccines within a 30-day time frame of when they enroll in school.Less than 20,000 migrant children out of NYC's more than 1,000,000 public school kids, we are talking less than 2% of the student population, and they will be vaccinated within 30 days of entering school. This seems reasonable enough to me, the risk is low. (@George-K, you're a medical doctor, what do you think?)
For comparison, the state of Florida allows public school students to claim "religious exemptions" to sidestep vaccination requirements, and now has over 8% of its kindergarteners claiming that exemption -- and there is no plan to get them vaccinated, ever.
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks? Maybe Breitbart should write an article about that.
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
From the article:
“… students in temporary housing, they do not need to show proof of vaccination in order to enter school,” the official said. “However, we are working with our partners … to get the students vaccinated.”
.
The official noted that the goal is to have migrant children fully up-to-date on their vaccines within a 30-day time frame of when they enroll in school.Less than 20,000 migrant children out of NYC's more than 1,000,000 public school kids, we are talking less than 2% of the student population, and they will be vaccinated within 30 days of entering school. This seems reasonable enough to me, the risk is low. (@George-K, you're a medical doctor, what do you think?)
For comparison, the state of Florida allows public school students to claim "religious exemptions" to sidestep vaccination requirements, and now has over 8% of its kindergarteners claiming that exemption -- and there is no plan to get them vaccinated, ever.
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks? Maybe Breitbart should write an article about that.
Two words:
Patient Zero.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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From the article:
“… students in temporary housing, they do not need to show proof of vaccination in order to enter school,” the official said. “However, we are working with our partners … to get the students vaccinated.”
.
The official noted that the goal is to have migrant children fully up-to-date on their vaccines within a 30-day time frame of when they enroll in school.Less than 20,000 migrant children out of NYC's more than 1,000,000 public school kids, we are talking less than 2% of the student population, and they will be vaccinated within 30 days of entering school. This seems reasonable enough to me, the risk is low. (@George-K, you're a medical doctor, what do you think?)
For comparison, the state of Florida allows public school students to claim "religious exemptions" to sidestep vaccination requirements, and now has over 8% of its kindergarteners claiming that exemption -- and there is no plan to get them vaccinated, ever.
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks? Maybe Breitbart should write an article about that.
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks?
I didn’t glean ‘worry’ from his first post, more like hope.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
-Cormac McCarthy -
By the way, Washington state, and 17 others allow personal or philosophical exemptions to vaccinations. In fact, in one county, more than 20% were unvaccinated for measles.
Funny that Florida was picked as an example because DeSantis.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
From the article:
“… students in temporary housing, they do not need to show proof of vaccination in order to enter school,” the official said. “However, we are working with our partners … to get the students vaccinated.”
.
The official noted that the goal is to have migrant children fully up-to-date on their vaccines within a 30-day time frame of when they enroll in school.Less than 20,000 migrant children out of NYC's more than 1,000,000 public school kids, we are talking less than 2% of the student population, and they will be vaccinated within 30 days of entering school. This seems reasonable enough to me, the risk is low. (@George-K, you're a medical doctor, what do you think?)
For comparison, the state of Florida allows public school students to claim "religious exemptions" to sidestep vaccination requirements, and now has over 8% of its kindergarteners claiming that exemption -- and there is no plan to get them vaccinated, ever.
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks? Maybe Breitbart should write an article about that.
Two words:
Patient Zero.
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By the way, Washington state, and 17 others allow personal or philosophical exemptions to vaccinations. In fact, in one county, more than 20% were unvaccinated for measles.
Funny that Florida was picked as an example because DeSantis.
@George-K said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
By the way, Washington state, and 17 others allow personal or philosophical exemptions to vaccinations. In fact, in one county, more than 20% were unvaccinated for measles.
Wasn't looking at county level, fairly sure there are counties that have astoundingly high vaccination exemption rates to be found in any state that allows exemptions.
Funny that Florida was picked as an example because DeSantis.
Yeah, DeSantis is the recent loud mouth pandering to the antivaxxers, so he's the first one that came to mind when looking for a comparison.
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@Jolly said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
Two words:
Patient Zero.
Care to think/communicate beyond buzz words?
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
@Jolly said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
Two words:
Patient Zero.
Care to think/communicate beyond buzz words?
No. If you don't understand the term, you're so ignorant you're unworthy of the discussion.
Go educate yourself.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks?
I didn’t glean ‘worry’ from his first post, more like hope.
@jon-nyc said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
So, @Jolly, are you worried about Florida's kindergartens developing polio or measles outbreaks?
I didn’t glean ‘worry’ from his first post, more like hope.
Not quite schadenfreude - after all, no sane person wants to see children suffer - but there is certainly some shithouse karma involved.
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@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
@Jolly said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
Two words:
Patient Zero.
Care to think/communicate beyond buzz words?
No. If you don't understand the term, you're so ignorant you're unworthy of the discussion.
Go educate yourself.
@Jolly said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
Care to think/communicate beyond buzz words?
No.
It figures.
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@George-K said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
By the way, Washington state, and 17 others allow personal or philosophical exemptions to vaccinations. In fact, in one county, more than 20% were unvaccinated for measles.
Wasn't looking at county level, fairly sure there are counties that have astoundingly high vaccination exemption rates to be found in any state that allows exemptions.
Funny that Florida was picked as an example because DeSantis.
Yeah, DeSantis is the recent loud mouth pandering to the antivaxxers, so he's the first one that came to mind when looking for a comparison.
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
DeSantis is the recent loud mouth pandering to the antivaxxers
Has he pandered to the anti-vaxxers who oppose MMR vaccines? Polio?
Or only to the Anti-COVIDians who don't want to vaccinate the children who are at minimal risk from the SARS-CoV-2 virus?
There might be a difference...
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@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
DeSantis is the recent loud mouth pandering to the antivaxxers
Has he pandered to the anti-vaxxers who oppose MMR vaccines? Polio?
Or only to the Anti-COVIDians who don't want to vaccinate the children who are at minimal risk from the SARS-CoV-2 virus?
There might be a difference...
@George-K said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
DeSantis is the recent loud mouth pandering to the antivaxxers
Has he pandered to the anti-vaxxers who oppose MMR vaccines? Polio?
Or only to the Anti-COVIDians who don't want to vaccinate the children who are at minimal risk from the SARS-CoV-2 virus?
There might be a difference...
Indeed there might be a difference, I just cannot recall DeSantis ever says anything about such a difference whenever he talks about individual’s right to refuse vaccination or parents’ rights to refuse vaccinations for their children.
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@George-K said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
@Axtremus said in Maybe a nice measles outbreak would do it...:
DeSantis is the recent loud mouth pandering to the antivaxxers
Has he pandered to the anti-vaxxers who oppose MMR vaccines? Polio?
Or only to the Anti-COVIDians who don't want to vaccinate the children who are at minimal risk from the SARS-CoV-2 virus?
There might be a difference...
Indeed there might be a difference, I just cannot recall DeSantis ever says anything about such a difference whenever he talks about individual’s right to refuse vaccination or parents’ rights to refuse vaccinations for their children.
