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Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?

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  • CopperC Offline
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    Hydrogen

    09474104-329e-4081-aab9-cf2239398690-image.png

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      I think it is no more dangerous (maybe less so) than propane tanks currently in cars/taxis/buses etc.

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      @taiwan_girl said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

      I think it is no more dangerous (maybe less so) than propane tanks currently in cars/taxis/buses etc.

      It's different, not more or less dangerous. Hydrogen leaks much more easily because it has such small molecules, but it also disperses much quicker, and doesn't hang around on the floor like propane as it's lighter than air.

      The energy and speed of a hydrogen explosion is much faster and more violent than propane, and the pressures developed are higher. You'd be surprised how freaking loud a hydrogen explosion is with just a liter of enclosed gas. It's not a squeaky pop like you get at school, more like a gun going off.

      It's much easier to ignite hydrogen with an electrical spark - it has the lowest spark ignition energy of any gas or vapour.

      And that concludes the combustion science lecture for today.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @taiwan_girl said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

        I think it is no more dangerous (maybe less so) than propane tanks currently in cars/taxis/buses etc.

        It's different, not more or less dangerous. Hydrogen leaks much more easily because it has such small molecules, but it also disperses much quicker, and doesn't hang around on the floor like propane as it's lighter than air.

        The energy and speed of a hydrogen explosion is much faster and more violent than propane, and the pressures developed are higher. You'd be surprised how freaking loud a hydrogen explosion is with just a liter of enclosed gas. It's not a squeaky pop like you get at school, more like a gun going off.

        It's much easier to ignite hydrogen with an electrical spark - it has the lowest spark ignition energy of any gas or vapour.

        And that concludes the combustion science lecture for today.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

        @taiwan_girl said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

        I think it is no more dangerous (maybe less so) than propane tanks currently in cars/taxis/buses etc.

        It's different, not more or less dangerous. Hydrogen leaks much more easily because it has such small molecules, but it also disperses much quicker, and doesn't hang around on the floor like propane as it's lighter than air.

        The energy and speed of a hydrogen explosion is much faster and more violent than propane, and the pressures developed are higher. You'd be surprised how freaking loud a hydrogen explosion is with just a liter of enclosed gas. It's not a squeaky pop like you get at school, more like a gun going off.

        It's much easier to ignite hydrogen with an electrical spark - it has the lowest spark ignition energy of any gas or vapour.

        And that concludes the combustion science lecture for today.

        Phibes, Phibes, Phibes… Everyone knows that water is made up of 2 parts hydrogen, and one part oxygen. We also know that oxygen is EXTREMELY combustible… Now, as water is obviously not combustible, and in fact is so non combustible that we pour it on fires to put them out, then it is painfully obvious that hydrogen can not be combustible and in fact, has to likely be the most non flammable material in all existence.

        It’s simple science.

        The Brad

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        • CopperC Copper

          Hydrogen

          09474104-329e-4081-aab9-cf2239398690-image.png

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          @Copper said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

          Hydrogen

          09474104-329e-4081-aab9-cf2239398690-image.png

          Nazi misinformation.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Copper said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

            Hydrogen

            09474104-329e-4081-aab9-cf2239398690-image.png

            Nazi misinformation.

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

            @Copper said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

            Hydrogen

            09474104-329e-4081-aab9-cf2239398690-image.png

            Nazi misinformation.

            Funnily enough, the majority of the fire wasn't hydrogen burning, but oil and superstructure. A hydrogen fire is almost invisible and doesn't produce smoke.

            I was only joking

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

              @taiwan_girl said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

              I think it is no more dangerous (maybe less so) than propane tanks currently in cars/taxis/buses etc.

              It's different, not more or less dangerous. Hydrogen leaks much more easily because it has such small molecules, but it also disperses much quicker, and doesn't hang around on the floor like propane as it's lighter than air.

              The energy and speed of a hydrogen explosion is much faster and more violent than propane, and the pressures developed are higher. You'd be surprised how freaking loud a hydrogen explosion is with just a liter of enclosed gas. It's not a squeaky pop like you get at school, more like a gun going off.

              It's much easier to ignite hydrogen with an electrical spark - it has the lowest spark ignition energy of any gas or vapour.

              And that concludes the combustion science lecture for today.

              Phibes, Phibes, Phibes… Everyone knows that water is made up of 2 parts hydrogen, and one part oxygen. We also know that oxygen is EXTREMELY combustible… Now, as water is obviously not combustible, and in fact is so non combustible that we pour it on fires to put them out, then it is painfully obvious that hydrogen can not be combustible and in fact, has to likely be the most non flammable material in all existence.

              It’s simple science.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

              Phibes, Phibes, Phibes… Everyone knows that water is made up of 2 parts hydrogen, and one part oxygen. We also know that oxygen is EXTREMELY combustible… Now, as water is obviously not combustible, and in fact is so non combustible that we pour it on fires to put them out, then it is painfully obvious that hydrogen can not be combustible and in fact, has to likely be the most non flammable material in all existence.

              It’s simple science.

              OK, smart guy, if hydrogen is so safe how come they make atomic bombs out of it?

              I was only joking

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                Actually, a lot of the Hindenburg fire is probably traceable to the dope used on the fabric...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

                  Phibes, Phibes, Phibes… Everyone knows that water is made up of 2 parts hydrogen, and one part oxygen. We also know that oxygen is EXTREMELY combustible… Now, as water is obviously not combustible, and in fact is so non combustible that we pour it on fires to put them out, then it is painfully obvious that hydrogen can not be combustible and in fact, has to likely be the most non flammable material in all existence.

                  It’s simple science.

                  OK, smart guy, if hydrogen is so safe how come they make atomic bombs out of it?

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Who's afraid of the Big Green Hydrogen?:

                  Phibes, Phibes, Phibes… Everyone knows that water is made up of 2 parts hydrogen, and one part oxygen. We also know that oxygen is EXTREMELY combustible… Now, as water is obviously not combustible, and in fact is so non combustible that we pour it on fires to put them out, then it is painfully obvious that hydrogen can not be combustible and in fact, has to likely be the most non flammable material in all existence.

                  It’s simple science.

                  OK, smart guy, if hydrogen is so safe how come they make atomic bombs out of it?

                  It’s the atoms, not the hydrogen…

                  And atomic bombs aren’t anywhere near as bad as nuclear bombs.

                  The Brad

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                    Maybe the Hindenburg was actually a failed Nazi nucular attack on the US of A.

                    Hey, it could happen! Canada was close by.

                    I was only joking

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                      My uncle was an eyewitness to the Hindenburg disaster.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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