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Prigozhin plane crashes, killing all on board

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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #5

    Lots of videos out there, purporting to show the doomed plane falling. Another one shows wreckage with bodies. One of the photos has a tail number which coincides with a private jet that was owned by Prigozhin.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      Not difficult to believe he got shot down had a plane crash.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        Wait, what did I have in the pool?

        The Brad

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          Any blaming of Ukraine yet?

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            I'm withholding judgement until I hear Tucker Carlson's opinion on this.

            I was only joking

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #10

              In last 24 hours Putin sacks Surovikin and Prigozhin meets with a terminal misfortune in an aircraft crash.

              Wish I could feel sorry.

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                Putin may well need a private army one day soon.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  Screenshot 2023-08-23 at 4.57.44 PM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #13

                    It just struck me while I was preparing dinner…

                    The fiery plane crash; a perfectly orchestrated Gottendamerung for the finale of the Leader of the so Russian sounding “Wagner Gruppen”.

                    How more Wagnerian can you get?

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      Not much here but Putin breaks his silence over crash and Prigozhin’s death.

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=64e786a396ad8677126af6f5%26Putin breaks silence - and other developments%262023-08-24T16%3A44%3A45.173Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3a1d01de-450d-4dde-805e-08d03197ab3f&pinned_post_asset_id=64e786a396ad8677126af6f5&pinned_post_type=share

                      Elbows up!

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        IMG_1785.JPG

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          Not much here but Putin breaks his silence over crash and Prigozhin’s death.

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=64e786a396ad8677126af6f5%26Putin breaks silence - and other developments%262023-08-24T16%3A44%3A45.173Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3a1d01de-450d-4dde-805e-08d03197ab3f&pinned_post_asset_id=64e786a396ad8677126af6f5&pinned_post_type=share

                          MikM Offline
                          MikM Offline
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          @Renauda said in Prigozhin plane crashes, killing all on board:

                          Not much here but Putin breaks his silence over crash and Prigozhin’s death.

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=64e786a396ad8677126af6f5%26Putin breaks silence - and other developments%262023-08-24T16%3A44%3A45.173Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3a1d01de-450d-4dde-805e-08d03197ab3f&pinned_post_asset_id=64e786a396ad8677126af6f5&pinned_post_type=share

                          "he made serious mistakes in his life"

                          That's an understatement.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            A well presented analysis in the immediate aftermath of yesterday’s incident:

                            https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/why-putin-wanted-prigozhin-dead?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_posts&utm_campaign=tw_daily_soc

                            Elbows up!

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
                              RenaudaR Offline
                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              Putin’s nightmare:

                              https://www.theonion.com/yevgeny-prigozhin-leads-army-of-25-000-undead-toward-kr-1850775179

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                I so wish that were true.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  taiwan_girl
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                                  #20

                                  Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that hand grenade fragments were found in the bodies of people who died in the Aug. 23 crash of mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin's plane.

                                  Experts investigating the crash found no indication the private jet had suffered an "external impact," he said. Prigozhin and two of his top lieutenants of the Wagner private military contractor were among the 10 people killed when the jet came down as it flew from Moscow to St. Petersburgh.

                                  Very convenient.

                                  https://www.npr.org/2023/10/05/1203948340/russia-putin-grenade-prigozhin-wager-plane-crash

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    I would probably believe that the plane caught on fire because of "careless smoking" more than that ridiculous comment.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
                                      George KG Offline
                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/putin-patrushev-plan-prigozhin-assassination-428d5ed8?mod=e2tw

                                      On the tarmac of a Moscow airport in late August, Yevgeny Prigozhin waited on his Embraer Legacy 600 for a safety check to finish before it could take off. The mercenary army chief was headed home to St. Petersburg with nine others onboard. Through the delay, no one inside the cabin noticed the small explosive device slipped under the wing.

                                      When the jet finally left, it climbed for about 30 minutes to 28,000 feet, before the wing blew apart, sending the aircraft spiraling to the ground. All 10 people were killed, including Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner paramilitary group.

                                      The assassination of the warlord was two months in the making and approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s oldest ally and confidant, an ex-spy named Nikolai Patrushev, according to Western intelligence officials and a former Russian intelligence officer. The role of Patrushev as the driver of the plan to kill Prigozhin hasn’t been previously reported.

                                      The Kremlin has denied involvement in Prigozhin’s death, and Putin offered the closest thing to an official explanation for the plane’s fiery crash, suggesting a hand grenade had detonated onboard.

                                      None of that was true.

                                      Hours after the incident, a European involved in intelligence gathering who maintained a backchannel of communication with the Kremlin and saw news of the crash asked an official there what had happened.

                                      “He had to be removed,” the Kremlin official responded without hesitation.

                                      Patrushev had warned Putin for a long time that Moscow’s reliance on Wagner in Ukraine was giving Prigozhin too much political and military clout that was increasingly threatening the Kremlin.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/putin-patrushev-plan-prigozhin-assassination-428d5ed8?mod=e2tw

                                        On the tarmac of a Moscow airport in late August, Yevgeny Prigozhin waited on his Embraer Legacy 600 for a safety check to finish before it could take off. The mercenary army chief was headed home to St. Petersburg with nine others onboard. Through the delay, no one inside the cabin noticed the small explosive device slipped under the wing.

                                        When the jet finally left, it climbed for about 30 minutes to 28,000 feet, before the wing blew apart, sending the aircraft spiraling to the ground. All 10 people were killed, including Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner paramilitary group.

                                        The assassination of the warlord was two months in the making and approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s oldest ally and confidant, an ex-spy named Nikolai Patrushev, according to Western intelligence officials and a former Russian intelligence officer. The role of Patrushev as the driver of the plan to kill Prigozhin hasn’t been previously reported.

                                        The Kremlin has denied involvement in Prigozhin’s death, and Putin offered the closest thing to an official explanation for the plane’s fiery crash, suggesting a hand grenade had detonated onboard.

                                        None of that was true.

                                        Hours after the incident, a European involved in intelligence gathering who maintained a backchannel of communication with the Kremlin and saw news of the crash asked an official there what had happened.

                                        “He had to be removed,” the Kremlin official responded without hesitation.

                                        Patrushev had warned Putin for a long time that Moscow’s reliance on Wagner in Ukraine was giving Prigozhin too much political and military clout that was increasingly threatening the Kremlin.

                                        MikM Offline
                                        MikM Offline
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @George-K

                                        No surprise there.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          He lived longer than I expected

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