A look at the GA election fraud claims
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@George-K There you go again, making sense! LOL
In other news, President Trump has cancelled his SUPER BIG IMPORTANT PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!
Former President Donald Trump now says he won't be holding a press conference next week to unveil what he claims is new evidence of fraud in the 2020 election in Georgia, citing the advice of lawyers.
No compelling evidence of the wide-scale fraud Trump alleges has emerged in the two-and-a-half years since the election. Republican officials in the state — where three recounts confirmed Trump’s loss to President Joe Biden — have long said he lost legitimately.
“Rather than releasing the Report on the Rigged & Stolen Georgia 2020 Presidential Election on Monday, my lawyers would prefer putting this, I believe, Irrefutable & Overwhelming evidence of Election Fraud & Irregularities in formal Legal Filings as we fight to dismiss this disgraceful Indictment," he wrote on his social media site Thursday evening. He added, “Therefore, the News Conference is no longer necessary!”
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@George-K There you go again, making sense! LOL
In other news, President Trump has cancelled his SUPER BIG IMPORTANT PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!
Former President Donald Trump now says he won't be holding a press conference next week to unveil what he claims is new evidence of fraud in the 2020 election in Georgia, citing the advice of lawyers.
No compelling evidence of the wide-scale fraud Trump alleges has emerged in the two-and-a-half years since the election. Republican officials in the state — where three recounts confirmed Trump’s loss to President Joe Biden — have long said he lost legitimately.
“Rather than releasing the Report on the Rigged & Stolen Georgia 2020 Presidential Election on Monday, my lawyers would prefer putting this, I believe, Irrefutable & Overwhelming evidence of Election Fraud & Irregularities in formal Legal Filings as we fight to dismiss this disgraceful Indictment," he wrote on his social media site Thursday evening. He added, “Therefore, the News Conference is no longer necessary!”
@taiwan_girl said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
@George-K There you go again, making sense! LOL
Don't give me credit, LOL. I'm just quoting what someone who actually looked at the claims posted.
As far as Trump's cancellation, we're talking about it in the "Trump Talks" thread.
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@Horace said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
Trump really embarrassed himself this time.
I doubt it. He's got that rare gift of actually believing all his own bullshit. The most he would have experienced was the merest hint of doubt, before writing it off as the after-effects of last night's Big Mac, and ploughing on regardless.
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@Horace said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
Trump really embarrassed himself this time.
I doubt it. He's got that rare gift of actually believing all his own bullshit. The most he would have experienced was the merest hint of doubt, before writing it off as the after-effects of last night's Big Mac, and ploughing on regardless.
@Doctor-Phibes said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
@Horace said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
Trump really embarrassed himself this time.
I doubt it. He's got that rare gift of actually believing all his own bullshit. The most he would have experienced was the merest hint of doubt, before writing it off as the after-effects of last night's Big Mac, and ploughing on regardless.
If he actually believes his own bullshit than all of the counts in the indictment go out the window except for the perjury (and was there a bribery charge? I can’t remember)
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@Doctor-Phibes said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
@Horace said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
Trump really embarrassed himself this time.
I doubt it. He's got that rare gift of actually believing all his own bullshit. The most he would have experienced was the merest hint of doubt, before writing it off as the after-effects of last night's Big Mac, and ploughing on regardless.
If he actually believes his own bullshit than all of the counts in the indictment go out the window except for the perjury (and was there a bribery charge? I can’t remember)
@LuFins-Dad said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
If he actually believes his own bullshit than all of the counts in the indictment go out the window except for the perjury (and was there a bribery charge? I can’t remember)
He believes he should have won the election. So he believes it was perfectly acceptable to correct the result. He's the greatest President since George Washington, after all.
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@Jolly said in A look at the GA election fraud claims:
A simple "yes" would suffice.
How do We explain the Cancelled press conference that Was to REVEAL The trUth?
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Buehler?
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While researching the melt point of ANSI #300 SS, I came across the below article. LOL
Probably won't change anybodies mind, but.......
https://apnews.com/article/trump-2020-election-lies-debunked-4fc26546b07962fdbf9d66e739fbb50d
State Investigations
In Arizona, a six-month review of ballots in the state’s largest county, Maricopa, that was commissioned by Republican state legislators not only affirmed Biden’s victory but determined that he should have won by 306 more votes than the officially certified statewide margin of 10,457.In Georgia, where Trump was recently indicted for his efforts to overturn the 2020 result there, state officials led by both a Republican governor and secretary of state recertified Biden’s win after conducting three statewide counts. The final official recount narrowed Biden’s victory in the state from just shy of 13,000 votes to just shy of 12,000 votes.
In Michigan, a committee led by Republican state senators concluded there was no widespread or systematic fraud in the state in 2020 after conducting a monthslong investigation. Michigan, where Biden defeated Trump by almost 155,000 votes, or 2.8 percentage points, was less competitive compared with other battleground states, although the result in Wayne County, home of Detroit, was targeted by Trump and his supporters with unfounded voter fraud claims, as were key urban jurisdictions across the country.
In Nevada, the then-secretary of state, Republican Barbara Cegavske, and her office reviewed tens of thousands of allegations of possible voter fraud identified by the Nevada Republican Party but found that almost all were based on incomplete information and a lack of understanding of the state’s voting and registration procedures. For example, Cegavske’s investigation found that of 1,506 alleged instances of ballots being cast in the name of deceased individuals, only 10 warranted further investigation by law enforcement. Similarly, 10 out of 1,778 allegations of double-voting called for further investigation. Biden won Nevada by 33,596 votes, or 2.4 percentage points.
In Pennsylvania, the final certified results had Biden with an 80,555-vote margin over Trump, or 1.2 percentage points. Efforts to overturn Pennsylvania’s election failed in state and federal courts, while no prosecutor, judge or election official in Pennsylvania has raised a concern about widespread fraud. State Republicans continue to attempt their own review of the 2020 results, but that effort has been tied up in the courts and Democrats have called it a “partisan fishing expedition.”
In Wisconsin, a recount slightly improved Biden’s victory over Trump by 87 votes, increasing Biden’s statewide lead to 20,682, or 0.6 percentage points. A nonpartisan audit that concluded a year after the election made recommendations on how to improve future elections in Wisconsin but did not uncover evidence of widespread voter fraud in the state, leading the Republican co-chair of the audit committee to declare that “the election was largely safe and secure.” The state’s Assembly speaker, a Republican, ordered a separate review, which a state judge said found “absolutely no evidence of election fraud.”
President Trump Investigations
Trump was repeatedly advised by members of his own administration that there was no evidence of widespread fraud.Nine days after the 2020 election, the federal Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency issued a statement saying, “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history.” The statement was co-written by the groups representing the top elections officials in every state.
Less than three weeks later, then-Attorney General William Barr declared that a Justice Department investigation had not uncovered evidence of the widespread voter fraud that Trump had claimed was at the center of a massive conspiracy to steal the election. Barr, who had directed U.S. attorneys and FBI agents across the country to pursue “substantial allegations” of voting irregularities, said, “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
Court Cases
The Trump campaign and its backers pursued numerous legal challenges to the election in court and alleged a variety of voter fraud and misconduct. The cases were heard and roundly rejected by dozens of courts at both state and federal levels, including by judges whom Trump appointed.The U.S. Supreme Court also rejected several efforts in the weeks after Election Day to overturn the election results in various battleground states that Biden won.
Voting Machines
Many of the claims Trump and his team advanced about a stolen election dealt with the equipment voters used to cast their ballots.At various times, Trump and his legal team falsely alleged that voting machines were built in Venezuela at the direction of President Hugo Chavez, who died in 2013; that machines were designed to delete or flip votes cast for Trump; and that the U.S. Army had seized a computer server in Germany that held secrets to U.S. voting irregularities.
None of those claims was ever substantiated or corroborated. CISA’s joint statement released after the election said, “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised.”
Claims Involving Suitcases and Ballot Mules
One theory advanced by both Trump and one of his lawyers, Rudy Giuliani, is that “suitcases” full of fraudulent ballots in Georgia cost Trump the election there.Then-Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen told the Jan. 6 House committee that he personally reviewed the video purported to show the fraud allegation in question. He recounted telling Trump: “It wasn’t a suitcase. It was a bin. That’s what they use when they’re counting ballots. It’s benign.”
State and county officials also had confirmed the containers were regular ballot containers on wheels, which are used in normal ballot processing.
But a week later, Trump publicly repeated the suitcase theory, saying, “There is even security camera footage from Georgia that shows officials telling poll watchers to leave the room before pulling suitcases of ballots out from under the tables and continuing to count for hours.”
Richard Donoghue, the former acting deputy attorney general, told the Jan. 6 committee that, days later, he told Trump that “these allegations about ballots being smuggled in in a suitcase and run through the machine several times, it was not true. … We looked at the video, we interviewed the witnesses.” But Trump continued to repeat the false claim.
Another debunked claim spinning a tale of 2,000 so-called ballot mules was featured in a film that ran in hundreds of theaters last spring. The film alleges that Democrat-aligned individuals were paid to illegally collect and drop ballots in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. But the AP determined that the allegations were based on flawed analysis of cellphone location data and drop box surveillance footage.
